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Jena 6- missing points
If the author were to do a bit more investigation, he would have come up with the following already available timeline from the friends of justice to provide further context for the situation. For example- -Members of the Jena six *were * involved in convening a peaceful protests after the noose incident. One of the responses to this sit ...
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brw
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September 25, 2007
The last statistic is my point
Hi Degsme, So first I'll reply to your last post--that 33% of the Seattle residents have arrived in the last 5 years. I think that statistic is exactly my point. And I'd agree that it is probably true from anectodal evidence. Most of the families on my parents' block have moved in since 2002, which funny enough is around the time the ...
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The Breakfast Table
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Kristine
on
July 24, 2007
Re: Quotas are not percentages
There are quite a number of private high schools in Seattle. And they have grown in huge numbers since 1970, and all have wait lists. There are (off the top of my head, I'm sure I'm missing a few): Lakeside, Blanchet, University Prep, Seattle Prep, Holy Names, O'Dea, Bush, and Northwest So that's 8 in a city of 500,000. Not insignificant. And I ...
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Kristine
on
July 17, 2007
So what's the solution?
Wow, degsme. Thanks for the great posts. So, what's the plan? How do we solve this? (I hope I wasn't the one who name called, for goodness sake, we haven't stooped that low, have we?) On many of these issues we are just in disagreement. I will always think my grandparents worked in a diverse environment in Eastern Washington because as a city ...
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Kristine
on
July 15, 2007
It wasn't brainwashing
I was hoping that degsme would reply to my earlier post because he obviously had insight in to the Seattle system. I disagree with Iwasblind because a lot of what you are saying is theory and makes for great t-shirt slogans. In reality a lot of these ideas don't pan out. Everyone grows up in a ''culture'' whether it is European, African, Asian, ...
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Kristine
on
July 14, 2007
The numbers are the point
You made a lot of great points here. I'll try to address them all as best as I can. I think the numbers are the biggest piece of evidence we have when we discuss the success of SSD's integration policies. Go to the suburbs now and go to the private schools. Talk to people who have lived in the city for generations. They will tell you about ...
Posted to
The Breakfast Table
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Kristine
on
July 9, 2007
Re: Blacks do not need racial harmony or white americans
Ironically enough, I'm a white guy who was born in 1954. I've also had the opportunity to live in black neighborhoods, work in majority black settings, and reflect on the white racism of my family, co-workers, and people I've met on the way. In the final analysis, soulgroove07 is overly generous toward whites. In fact, he doesn't mention ...
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Jurisprudence
by
riccaric
on
July 9, 2007
The puzzle piece was already lost
I appreciate your reply, and you obviously do know a lot about the system and the way it worked. I must add that my parents were both products of Washington state public schools, and my maternal grandparents were both public high school teachers in a culturally diverse community in Eastern Washington for over thirty years. My family cares deeply ...
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Kristine
on
July 6, 2007
Freedom, the Constitution and failed social theory
As I understand it, the Brown decision did not order racially mixed schools. It ordered the removal of laws and policies prohibiting racially mixed schools. The principle it upheld was racial nondiscrimination. I originally supported busing because I assumed that busing was a temporary (like, maybe a decade or two) remedy to ...
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Iwasblind
on
July 5, 2007
The Seattle Problem
I think Mr.Dellinger doesn't understand the issue in Seattle when he chides Chief Justice Roberts for comparing historic racism in the South to the SSD's policies. Of course, they are radically different. And no white person in Seattle would ever say that their experiences over the past 3-4 decades could ever equate to those of an African American ...
Posted to
The Breakfast Table
by
Kristine
on
July 1, 2007
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