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Re: Superiority of Asians? You gotta be kiddin' me
Exactly...Asians For a race with supposedly higher IQ's, apart from Japan, Asia has been consistently pwned by Europeans and whites for the past 500 years. Since the whatever dynasty, China hasn't been a shit country all around with a huge peasant class. Even after they got themselves off the opium, foreign powers still controlled them. But ...
Posted to Human Nature by shamwow on May 5, 2009
IQ, Race, Freedom & Oppression
Apparently Saletan wants to be an egalitarian in an age of genetic differences. He wants to be a truthful scientist in an age of dogmatic coercion. He wants self-respect and integrity, but he doesn’t want to suffer for living according to his values. Big dilemma. However, Saletan has managed to delicately sidestep the main issue, which is not ...
Posted to Human Nature by Pollynkorect on November 9, 2008
Re: Blacks are genetically superior in...
Your sports analogy completely blows up when you look at a sport that controls for both heredity and environment -- soccer. In that sport, the world's top athletes come from a wide variety of ethnic, socio-economic and geographic backgrounds. The world's current best player, Kaka, is an upper-middle class white Brazilian with obvious European ...
Posted to The Dilettante by jfurf on December 4, 2007
"the within-group heritability of IQ scores is irrelevant"
The APA report asks: ''Are the environmental and cultural situations of American Blacks and Whites also substantially and consistently different—different enough to make this a good analogy? If so, the within-group heritability of IQ scores is irrelevant to the issue.'' Is it? The debate seems to revolve around two issues: Is intelligence an ...
Posted to The Dilettante by Rand on December 4, 2007
Re: The need for detail
He might have been a better writer to have replaced ''those Nigerian babies'' with ''these babies'' because after all 5% of the babies of European descent lack the gene(s) too. Thanks for reminding us of the context of Saletan’s quote. Of course there is a lot more to it than that. Firstly: It is not 5% of all babies of European descent ...
Posted to Human Nature by brerlou on November 30, 2007
Re: Neither Race or IQ Scientifically Valid
BJ&TheBear: In walks the science: In one of the most extensive of these studies to date, considering 1,056 individuals from 52 human populations, with each individual genotyped for 377 autosomal microsatellite markers, we found that individuals could be partitioned into six main genetic clusters, five of which corresponded to Africa, ...
Posted to Human Nature by gzuckier on November 29, 2007
Neither Race or IQ Scientifically Valid
Who said IQ was a true measure of intelligence anyway? It only measures a certain kind of mental ability. There is growing evidence that diet and environment can play a huge role in brain development. Also, differences in lifestyle can cause certain genetic traits to be expressed. Someone with poor nutrition, neglected and abused by parents, poor ...
Posted to Human Nature by curiousgemini on November 28, 2007
Rational Racism
Perhaps Saletan is here founding a new movement (at least a new movement to give an old movement a respectable public face): Rational Racism. I suspect that what resonates as most existentially aggravating about thinking such as Saletan displays here, to those of us it rubs wrong, lies below the threshold of any reified logic: we intuit a ...
Posted to Human Nature by mcdonald on November 26, 2007
Race and IQ
On the topic of race, and intelligence, and the difference between Asians and Whites, the differences are more complex than indicated in the article. The article indicated Asians consistently scored higher than whites on IQ tests. It's more complicated than that. Yes, Asians score slightly higher than whites, on average, but it depends on which ...
Posted to Human Nature by Tim Bitts on November 22, 2007
If there are genetic differences, does it matter?
I would say that it does, because we do not know how these genes manifest themselves. I have read, for instance, that black children suffer more from sleep apnea, which affects IQ. If this is so, then a genetic predisposition to apnea would appear as a genetic predisposition to a lower IQ; however, apnea can be treated by to raise the effective ...
Posted to Human Nature by SpookyCat on November 19, 2007

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