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So what's the solution?
Wow, degsme. Thanks for the great posts. So, what's the plan? How do we solve this? (I hope I wasn't the one who name called, for goodness sake, we haven't stooped that low, have we?) On many of these issues we are just in disagreement. I will always think my grandparents worked in a diverse environment in Eastern Washington because as a city ...
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Kristine
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July 15, 2007
It wasn't brainwashing
I was hoping that degsme would reply to my earlier post because he obviously had insight in to the Seattle system. I disagree with Iwasblind because a lot of what you are saying is theory and makes for great t-shirt slogans. In reality a lot of these ideas don't pan out. Everyone grows up in a ''culture'' whether it is European, African, Asian, ...
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Kristine
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July 14, 2007
The numbers are the point
You made a lot of great points here. I'll try to address them all as best as I can. I think the numbers are the biggest piece of evidence we have when we discuss the success of SSD's integration policies. Go to the suburbs now and go to the private schools. Talk to people who have lived in the city for generations. They will tell you about ...
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Kristine
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July 9, 2007
The Seattle Problem
I think Mr.Dellinger doesn't understand the issue in Seattle when he chides Chief Justice Roberts for comparing historic racism in the South to the SSD's policies. Of course, they are radically different. And no white person in Seattle would ever say that their experiences over the past 3-4 decades could ever equate to those of an African American ...
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Kristine
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July 1, 2007
Thank you for the discussion
I'd especially like to thank Walter for his exceptionally moving reflections before and after the schools case came down on the real life meanings of segregation and racial difference in this society--truly America's original sin passed down from generation to generation (and thanks for the Charlie Black quote!). I'm not generally such a great ...
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The Wise Bard
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June 29, 2007
Re: O'Conner, Standing, and other thoughts
Foobs:On an aside, I think the flaws of the current court can be analogized to the infield fly rule. The infield fly rule exists because otherwise a strict following of the letter of the law would mean a manifest injustice. The belief that judges exist, not merely to apply the law, but to know when to break the letter of the law to pursue ...
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pryoslice
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June 27, 2007
no walter, the other branches shouldn't usurp judicial review
I am perfectly willing to consider the argument that Flast was wrongly decided and taxpayers qua taxpayers shouldn't have the right to go into court to challenge any expenditure they don't like. But Dellinger's argument that the reason for this is because the other branches should have a coequal or similar authority to interpret the Constitution ...
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Dilan Esper
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June 26, 2007