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Rev Wright, really a ploy to Clear up Muslim Charge
by DS3M

I think this whole thing was just a useful means of making sure everybody knows Barrack Hussein Obama believes in Jesus.

Though his pastor seems to be fond of Muhammad and his whip, Louis Farrakhan.

Re: Rev Wright, really a ploy to Clear up Muslim Charge
by HDM

I'm not so sure I know that Obama "believes in Jesus." He's been a Christian since about age 26. I read in the NYT online yesterday (here: <link> ) that even as a teenager, Obama was so ambitious that his mother teased him that he was going to be the first black president. ("'There was always a joke between my mom and Barack that he would be the first black president,' his [half-]sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, said in an interview over tea.")

Am I the only one in the world who thinks Obama joined a Christian church because he felt it was necessary if he was ever going to succeed as a American politician?

I should note that, as an atheist, I think it's infuriating that any candidate would feel they have to pretend to be religious, and preferably mainstream Christian, to get elected in this day and age. And that I also think Clinton has been underscoring her Methodism for political reasons. (In her case, I think it's an attempt to stop the Republican and conservative monopoly on religion and "family values," rather than an attempt to become more electable, but that doesn't really matter.)

But I still think it's important to consider that Obama's membership in this church may have been politically motivated all along. I think it's one of many examples of how he isn't the "above politics" idealist he pretends to be -- that he's no Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Re: Rev Wright, really a ploy to Clear up Muslim Charge
by THX 1138

My understanding is that atheists reject the notion of God because there is no tangible proof of his/hers/its existence. In that I respect atheists because they seem to appreciate a logical argument.

This is why I don't understand your comments about Obama. You have no proof that his Christianity is just a political calculation, just a feeling (insipid IMO). How is this different from religion?

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