Why is it that Americans are so obsessed with sex and yet so scared by it?

All of this hoopla about prostitution is moot. You wanna see what happens when prostitution is legal? Go to Holland, Germany, Switzerland, New Zealand etc. etc. etc. You think society goes to hell in a handbasket if hookers are free to ply their trade? I got news for you, any and all of the above countries are safer & cleaner than the US.

This isn't a religious or moral issue. Nor should it be. "Separation of church and state" and all that jazz? If you personally don't like something... don't do it. Prostitution is not going away. Keeping it illegal only serves to put it in the domain of criminal syndicates and pimps. In more rational societies, it is regulated and safe. Condoms are obligatory, working conditions are controlled... You never see prostitutes getting beaten, abused, or killed in European brothels. They have security who will pummel you into a coma if the hooker gives them the alert. Besides, wouldn't you prefer that the loser guys who can't get laid have some outlet rather than exploding one day and becoming a rapist?

This is all just an extension of the peculiar neurosis of our puritanical freak-out that leads to madness like our movie rating schemes where ultra-violence and gore are considered more acceptable for young viewers than someone's bare ass. Kids can come home from school and flip on the news at 4pm and see real, live, mutilated, dead bodies from some atrocity somewhere, but god forbid someone should ever see a nipple?

Just so you know... Most civilized countries laugh their asses off at the us.

What is it you are trying to control? You can't regulate prostitution.

On the contrary, prostitution is highly regulated in the countries where it is legal.

Hookers have unions, regulations, pay taxes, and are upstanding members of their societies. In Germany, there are even brothels on the side of the freeways with giant neon numbers in the windows. The women in these windows are more regulated than liquor stores... and have better security as well.

Regulation in prostitution is more effective even than regulation in firearms. This is primarily because everyone who wants a prostitute in such societies can find and obtain a legal one. Whereas with firearms, there is always this thriving black market to provide illegal guns to people who can't get legal ones (felons, criminals etc.) The same goes for drugs to a lesser degree. People don't score weed or hash off the street in the Netherlands... why would they when they can go into a nice, legal, regulated establishment and have a joint for the price of a coffee?

The simple fact is that it's not regulated and your "unrespectable government" is only a "collective idiot".

I'm not sure what your point is...

It is not regulated currently in 49 states of the US, but it IS regulated in most of the EU and much of Nevada. Should we as Americans decide to grow up and stop acting so hopelessly naive it could easily be legal and regulated in the majority of US states if not all. The fact that so many "upstanding" politicians and religious leaders are being caught using prostitutes shows that we as a nation are hypocrites.

Besides, our "holier than thou" pushing of some extreme moral code that is completely out of touch with the wants and desires of our population is not only un-democratic... but un-christian as well. Jesus stopped the mob from stoning the adultress whore after all. "Ye without sin cast the first stone."

My point is the 'Prohibition' amendment was not Constitutional and was not the 'Constitution' of a lot of people. Because a majority exists in no way means a 'law' is 'Constitutional'.

BaselessGull:

My point is the 'Prohibition' amendment was not Constitutional and was not the 'Constitution' of a lot of people. Because a majority exists in no way means a 'law' is 'Constitutional'.

You are babbling nonsense. You have no point. You are an idiot.

That is all.

British scumball...go away. But of course you have the right to decide what's Constitutional and what isn't, don't you? Why don't you go arrest someone on 'suspicion' somewhere.

Why do you think I'm British?

I am an American citizen.

Your comments are at best irrelevent and at worst confusing. Why did you go off your medication?

So tell us all why it's Constitutional to convict people of something they didn't do. Watch it now...pinhead. !!!!!!!!!**Due process**!!!!!!!!! isn't all it's cracked up to be by rich fartknockin lawyers. The British have been using !!!!!!!!!**Due process**!!!!!!!!! and "pretended offenses" to justify their evil deeds throughout their entire history and anyone flapping their lips about the "Constitutional Justification" of "err in judgement" of the "slight" is the real "nutcase".

Dear JahSun

After our conversations re: Anunnaki I looked back on some of your posts. Whew! I'm like "Who the hell is he?" I I am humbled to have had any interaction with you. You are brilliant, intellectual, fascinating and so intelligent it's numbing! Some of the posts on Human Nature boggled my mind! And you're also funny and bawdy when you get the urge. You can discourse on any subject it seems with great authority. And you ride a motorcycle! How cool is that?!

But enough castigation..;~) My reason for writing and stumbling my way into this post is..You had a conversation with true conservative back in Jan. regarding Christianity and the Holy Ghost. My thoughts on Jesus and the Holy Ghost were echoed in all your responses to TC. As far as I'm concerned when Pentecost occurred the people assembled were given spiritual gifts. I don't understand why people dismiss that the apostles were then able to physically do things they couldn't do before. I do have a problem with the Pentecostal religion tho or anyone that claims to "speak in tongues" that are undecipherable to anyone in hearing range. What's the point? I don't think they're really speaking in "tongues", they are just jabbering. The unlearned apostles upon receiving the Holy Ghost were able to speak in the tongues of the peoples in the surrounding areas in order to tell them of the promises and words of Christ. It is stated in Acts.

You mentioned in another post something to the effect that people were content to live good now so as to have a "reward" after death and wondered why they wouldn't rather experience that reward while they are alive. I hope you know what I'm talking about, not very clear.....were you talking about the Holy Ghost then? My understanding of the Holy Ghost is that it is the living spirit of Jesus and like you say if it was conferred on you you would know it. I guess my question to you is have you experienced this baptism? You sound as if you have. If so how were you affected?

I went through a conversion, a gradual awakening or whatever about 30+ years ago and I remember thoughts flying through my head at such a rapid pace that I couldn't keep up sometimes. It's like the Moody Blues wrote "a beam of light will fill your head....and you'll remember what's been said...by every good man this world's ever known" But like Jumping Mouse in a story in Hemeyost (sp?) Storm's Book of Seven Arrows, I have heard and caught a glimpse of the "river" (spirit) but have become so entangled in everyday things I feel like I get further away from the river and am afraid I won't find it to that degree again. I'm not religious, just spiritual, so I don't attend services. All this stuff with Sitchin and the Anunnaki didn't help either.

My thoughts on Paul, feminist that I am, is that he is a self declared apostle. I don't hold much with his "teachings". All I need to know about Jesus and his teachings is in the gospel of John. (Have read the whole book though) Have you read Leo Tolstoy's "The Gospel In Brief"? An interesting book. I'm sure there are not too many books you're not knowledgeable about.

Anyhow it was good to see you back on Slate. This is babbled coincidently,appropriately on Easter.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,­,,,,,,,,,my peace I leave with you,,,,,,,,,,,,,el

Hey there L M N O P!

Sorry this is so late after you wrote. I haven't been on Slate much in the past few due to travel and whatnot, but I am honored that you would take the time to reach out to me in such a fashion. I am humbled actually.

Of course whatever I may have is all from the grace of the universe itself... All praises due to the most high. etc. etc.

In truth, I am rather loathe to discuss my deeply personal stories in public forums such as this. Even my most profound philosophies I tend to withhold in these spaces... Not in any particular "cast not pearls before swine sort of way," but more out of recognition that this is not the ideal venue for such discourses. People come here by-and-large to debate controversial subjects, not to listen as people pontificate... IMO. There isn't much room for discourse when someone tells a story or gives purely anecdotal wisdom. People may call you names or disbelieve what you say, others will afford you the willing suspension of disbelief... yet in all but the rarest cases... no true transmission of a spark or worthy inspiration takes place. Judgments (both positive and negative) preclude people from utilizing the mirror your experiences might offer them. Often the overall effect of such statements runs counter to the intention in which it is said. Discussions of tangible issues based in logic and fact are simply more suitable in this "Fray" type atmosphere.

That said, I will say that in spiritual terms any action, thought, lifestyle, decision, or emotional response either takes you closer to an awareness of the fundamental unity of all things... or it takes you away from such an awareness. The more situations that you can remember your seamless connection to whatever you are observing brings the consciousness of Oneness closer to you. Whether one prefers to call this the Holy Spirit, the Mind of God, I&I, the fundamental ground of being, the Tao, the Buddha-field, the Great Spirit or whatever... you know it when it approaches you. Less so when you are retreating from it, as it is the predominant activity of Ego to avoid and flee from such awareness.

Anyway, I wish you all the best on your journey. Love & Light...

JahSun

Perhaps you might find this website interesting. =)

Dear JahSun,

Thanks for your response. Truthfully, I almost felt like a stalker. I looked for you every day I was on Slate. I knew you would have a bit of wisdom for me. I feel that you are one of the "enlightened ones"., and fu*kin' smart to boot!

Someone that I leaned on in the past for spiritual rapport told me to trust myself, one of my life lessons, but a little nudge in the right direction always helps. Off to the link....

agape...................el

Ok.... reality is that PROHIBITION does NOT work... and creates worse conditions than if it was LEGAL and REGULATED... it would NOT create more violence in back alleys as the article states... and it is amazing how much of this blames the act of prostitution for the modern day human trafficing, that in a LEGALIZED situation could be stopped more easily... I am ALL AGAINST SLAVE TRADE of SEX WORKERS and totally AGAINST keeping prostitution ILLEGAL - it does not create the safety net that these women/men need to keep clean, and reduce the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases... as it stands - buyer beware... we should be focussed on how to make people safer, not judge them for being free to do as they choose... as long as it is two consenting adults its cool... otherwise its rape... we need to be real about the reality... and stop turning it into another way to destroy lives of people who really are seeking some real contact with others...

amanasleep:

BaselessGull:

My point is the 'Prohibition' amendment was not Constitutional and was not the 'Constitution' of a lot of people. Because a majority exists in no way means a 'law' is 'Constitutional'.

You are babbling nonsense. You have no point. You are an idiot.

That is all.

Attacking the messanger is also a sign of having no arguement. :)