Just some thoughts about me

Did you ever wonder why Hillary could win the election in a state, yet lose the caucus in the same state? I don’t. I have been to a caucus, and I have seen the bullying of Hillary supporters on this board and elsewhere. The bullying does work…at least to win the battle.

When I was in college, a girl filed charges against a guy for rape. I found out about it because his bishop came to the door as he was putting some seriously aggressive moves on me. I left, and didn’t date him again—but I believed he did rape that girl. Here is the thing, though. His friends and the players on his team all put out the word that the girl had been involved in orgies with them. She had slept with a few guys in college (who didn’t?) but they made her out to be the biggest slut in the history of the school. Destroyed her. Completely.

She dropped the charges and left school for good. And we all got the message…

The next year when I had my horrible experience with the basketball star, I knew better than to do anything but suffer in silence. In fact, the first time I mentioned it was here after 25 years.

I tried to put it behind me, but then Anita Hill was on television. I was a Republican at the time. I watched them try to make her out to be the nation’s biggest slut. I changed party affiliation and worked my ass off for a decade to fight against the party who had done that to a sister (and by default had done it to me). Lots of women joined the Democrats that year. We came to expect that kind of sexism toward uppity women from the Right. Now we see it from the left. It is heartbreaking. I doubt I will ever give another penny or drop of my time to support those who are doing this to a sister. We are getting the message. Sit down and shut up if you are a woman 50-90. By the way, guess what the biggest voting block of the country is? Obama supporters are saying that this voting block has no value. OK, we believe that you do not value us.

We get the message.

Another message is sent that if a woman dares to run for office, she will be attacked in every sexist way possible from the left. We get the message. Loud and clear.

I've always looked down my beak at the so-called "independent" or "undecided" voters, said to decide close elections, thinking to myself they must be apathetic or shallow. But in these heady days of identity-politics balkanization, they may simply be the folks who vote based on something besides membership in a "tribal" demographic or victim-constituency. We may need complex coalitions and a parliamentary system of fluid national governance a la the Duma or the Knesset. "I can deliver the Lesbians and the Rotarians, but the Greens have split with the Abuse Victims and the Missouri Synod Lutherans......"

one thing I can't stand is bullying. If you got someone bullying you, you just point them out to me and I'll get on 'em like ugly on an ape. But you're going to have to point them out, because I don't think I've really seen much of that here, but then I don't read everything that's posted. I don't have to open something when I see flies swarming around it to know what's going on. My wife does that to me all the time, "Oooo, this smells nasty ... here, smell it ...". What the fuck? Get that out from under my nose, I'll take your word for it, woman. It's not like I don't trust you.

The same applies here.

Older women have just as much reason and right to vote their heart as anyone and I can't imagine Mr. Obama not needing their support, but you do what you need to do to feel right about this election.

As for myself, it's simple: I just don't particularly like Hillary Clinton, although part of that comes from the fact that I never did like Bill Clinton, I don't like their style of politics, I don't want that kind of devisiveness, I don't want to rewind into that sinkhole they created for the Democratic Party. She'd be better than McCain, but I could not actively campaign for her.

I know a lot of people who participated in caucuses this year and most of them for the first time ever. It appears to me that caucuses pay off for the enthusiastic and the organized, but I could understand how that enthusiasm can appear threatening.

On the other hand, there are plenty of women in public office. Eight governors, sixteen senators, and seventy representatives are women. That's not a proportional number, but it is enough to make me disregard your last paragraph in its entirety.

Being a target of sexism is not your exclusive domain. "We" have all experienced sexism in varying shades and degrees, and yes, it is wrong, grossly unfair, and believe it or not, on those occasions when it happens to me, I've spoken up about it too! Yes! Me, ol' "man-needy" topazz - can you believe that!

But in the big picture of my life? It takes up barely a tiny speck of it. Maybe I've just been amazingly lucky or maybe I live in a more enlightened populace, or (your version) maybe I'm just a big dumb stupid misogynistic asshole who is utterly clueless. All I know is I'm not hunting it down every day, or even thinking about it much. If it happens, and it doesn't happen all that often - I try to deal with it. Sometimes it makes a difference, sometimes I don't know if it ever will. On to other things.

I know of no other woman anywhere who has experienced sexism as consistently and regularly as you have. Maybe its time you considered moving somewhere else, or barring that - shutter up your doors and windows and live inside a bubble so you can keep all of these creeps out.

"...I have seen the bullying of Hillary supporters on this board and elsewhere..."

Me, too. I can't believe the way Hillary supporters bully anybody who doesn't fall in step behind her. That IS what you meant, isn't it?

Lemme ask you a question I asked Demcon:

If Hillary wins, is there any reason to think that you folks can be counted on to look at her Presidency realistically and critically, or do we have 4 (more) years of non-stop excuses and finger-pointing to look forward to?

See, I worry that since you're electing Hillary because she's a woman, and since she'll (probably) never stop being a woman, you'll never find any fault with her at all.

You're not one of the popular kids. Yeah, maybe you dated a basketball player for a while, but he told the rest of us on the team that you were just a little prick tease. And we told all our friends. My sister says she and her friends giggle about you in the girls' restroom. So unless you've got a boyfriend we don't know about coming back to save your reputation, you're finished in this school, girl.

gonna be in trouble.

(Hey-la, Hey-la My Boyfriend's back)
If you see him coming, better cut out on the double
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)
You been spreading lies that I was untrue
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)
but look out now, cause he's coming after you
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)

Yeah, he knows what you've been trying
And he knows that you've been lieing

He's been gone such a long long time
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)
but now he's back and things'll be fine
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)
You're gonna be sorry you were ever born
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)
Cause he's kinda big and he's awful strong
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)

Hey, he knows I wasn't cheatin'
Now you're gonna get your beatin'

What made you think he believe all your lies? (wa-ooh)
You're a big man now, but he'll cut you down to size (wa-ooh)

My boyfriend's back, he's gonna save my reputation
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)
If I were you, I'd take a permanent vacation
(Hey-la, Hey-la Her Boyfriend's back)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

topazz:

and a ten year old car to take you a Red Roof Inn? Just kidding.

I hardly envision you as being man-needy. You got to much going on in your life to need much of anything other than a great cup of coffee, a cigarette, and someone to vacuum the rug. Anyway, why would you want to take on another kid?

.

I am not gonna agree with you.

Politics is politics and no matter what, they will attack each other in whatever way they can. Hillary is not so innocent and a few have tossed themselves under the train to make a point on her behalf. It may not be the right year for a woman president "bite." Even at that, she came the closest of any woman may have ever come if she indeed loses.

The issues of this nation surpass beyond the candidate selection process. If it is to be Obama, I will support him in the election of a President. We have to get back on track and bring this nation around. While I have my reservations with Obama and his lack of substance, I find myself at odds with my beliefs to vote for McCain.

Nah. I got a steady girlfriend. She's not as good-looking as bite, but she's an A student. "Helps" me with my homework, if ya know what I mean. She says she thinks she can get me graduated, but it'll be close. I gotta stick with her. Till graduation anyway. I think she's gonna go away to college. Maybe I'll look bite up then.

Once and for all, run - I can't take this anymore, I mean it.

your habitual misuse of the preposition "to" - you only use "to" if you're linking it to other words or phrases within a sentence. When you're denoting any amount of something (tangible or intangible); "too much" "too dense" "too ironic" "too funny" then you should use "too."

I'll thank you to cooperate.

but do you have a good secretary? <link>

[smack]

it may not be the right century for a woman president.

And you're cute when you get all pissed off at grammar.