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Truth = Racism?
by RevStHuck

A young, attractive, charismatic former lawyer with less than one full senate term behind him and a plan for universal health care who is against the war and has great speaking skills--who am I describing? John Edwards or Barack Obama?

One went nowhere and the other is a media darling. Wonder why?

Re: Truth = Racism?
by PDC

Good one!

Re: Truth = Racism?
by TACULAR

Oy vey.

Please read this, though I'm sure that you'll keep going on like you are here: <link>

And this: http://www.euroamerican.org/

AND THIS: http://whitepriv.blogspot.com/

Then after you finish rubbishing that as nonsense try reading Tim Wise, David Roediger, Grace Elizabeth Hale, Robert Jensen, Karen Brodkin, James Loewen, Gloria T. Hull.

Do try to stop being offended long enough to look at the facts. It's not a personal swipe at you it's a swipe at a system that has pit human being against human being.

Realize what "whiteness" means. Understand that Italian, Irish, Jewish people are not "white" by the truthful and historical definition.

Understand that the charming oasis know as "ethnic enclaves" were intentionally created to keep "non-white" people out of "white" communities.

Understand that those "ethnic" communities became white by a specific process that had nothing to do with them being rotten human beings en masse, but from their understanding that anything was better than being black in America.

Once you educate yourself, the truth is not quite so painful. Sure it stings a bit, but at least you know that you have the power to stop the cycle of history repeating itself.
Re: Truth = Racism?
by Dirk Gently
You folks missed the point. OBVIOUSLY a lot of Obama's support comes from the fact that he's black, just as Hillary's support comes from the fact that she's a woman. However, what Ferraro has insinuated over and over is that Obama's other qualities pale in comparison to his race and gender. In other words, she insists that his support is UNEARNED, because in her view he has no other "presidential" qualities other than his race and gender. This is not only buying into racist logic, it's dismissive of all of his supporters, black, white, whatever. (The comparison to Edwards is not quite apt, as their speaking styles differ, and some have accused Edwards of being a phony, etc. And I'm saying this as and Edwards supporter. He was also farther left than these other two, policy-wise.) Imagine if someone in Obama's campaign said that the only reason people are voting for Hillary is because she has a vagina, and/or that a popular former president has access to that vagina. It would be offensive in the extreme. It's true that Hillary owes a lot to women supporting her just because she's a woman, and to the fact that she's the former First Lady. But she's also a smart, tough, qualified candidate with good ideas--just like Obama. Had those other qualities been absent she would definitely not have been able to cruise to this stage based on her vaginal status alone. To suggest that she wouldn't have gotten this far without those qualities is extremely demeaning. Lastly, you don't have to be "a racist" as such to say racist things (which goes for everyone: black people can say racist things about black people--just go over to BET). You can harbor touches of racism, most of them unconscious. You don't have to resent people to be racist. Racism is culturally situated, a discourse. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. It's a reason why saying "Asian people are good at math" is racist and ultimately demeaning, even though it's "positive" racism. So, Ferraro may "not have a racist bone in her body," but what she said was racist. And ironically, her umbrage and the fact that she cannot see how this was the case actually underscores the point. The author is right: it is the banal, unconscious, normative type of racism that's most pernicious (and widespread).
Re: Truth = Racism?
by bsharporflat

If Obama "OBVIOUSLY" gets the black vote because of his skin color then please explain why white Hillary had their votes (according to polls) for a couple years. She only lost them due to a few stupid, soft racist remarks by the Clintons this year.

Is your memory so short you can't remember all the articles titles "is he black enough" and other stuff like that last summer? Barack Obama's life shares little in common with most African Americans. Hillary's life shares little in common also. It was Bill Clinton's life that African Americans felt a kinship with. And the African American community recently made it clear they don't feel the connection anymore.

Re: Truth = Racism?
by RevStHuck

First of all, Hillary's ideas are conservative versions of Edwards's, Obama's are watered down versions of Edwards's. I'm an Edwards supporter, BTW, because his ideas were the best and most far-reaching. Not that it matters.

From day one the media was obsessed with nothing other than the fact that Hillary was a woman and Obama was black. The only reason they have any sucess is that Hillary's last name is Clinton and she's the former first lady. If she had been any other woman she would have been out of this before the Iowa caucus. Obama isn't playing the Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton race card so the media eats it up and they make him into some cross-cultural demigod.

If Hillary was any other woman senator she'd be discounted because of her gender. If Obama was any other white senator he'd be discounted simply because of the fact he'd fade into the mix with all the other white senators who have only marginal ideas and notions and simply aren't presidential timber.

There's a reason Biden and Dodd were forgotten as quickly as it started. Average white guys. They've been in the senate forever and a day, they have extensive policy experience--on paper they were probably the two best candidates of the field. In reality they were just two other medicore old white guys.

If Obama had their skin tone he'd be right there with them.

Geraldine Ferraro was right, not racist but right.

Re: Truth = Racism?
by TheRaven
Geraldine Ferraro was right, not racist but right.
Correct-amundo. But in the sick and twisted world of PC America, the truth is frowned upon when it fails to glorify black people.

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