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This is our Moment
by zebra
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Dear John--

For a moment, the media had me convinced that Barack Obama really did need to "hit back" against the Clinton campaign's campaign of negativity.

However, after thinking about this obsessively for days, I am thoroughly confident and convinced that, in fact, Obama should not hit back.

The best way to describe what we democrats are feeling these days is fatigued. We're tired of this race and how ugly and hopeless it seems to have become.

Obama's biggest strength is his ability to inspire, energize and motivate Americans, democrat, republican and independent alike, to get involved and demand change in Washington and remind us that we are tired of the same old Washington games and gridlock.

Instead of fighting on Clinton's muddy turf, Obama should revert to his original model--the one in which he uses his incredible oratorical gifts to move us, to inspire us, to make us feel good about being Americans again.

This is the perfect moment for that to occur--because, think about it: At this point, the Clinton campaign has managed to polarize even the democratic party to the point where, if she keeps this up, the democrats may actually lose the election in November.

The only way to break the gridlock is to change the frame. Instead of hitting back, Obama should come out with a new stump speech: a "Plan A" speech that re-invigorates the media and voters with a renewed sense of hope and positivity.

Presenting a clear choice: between a candidate who will help us turn the page on the old and ugly gridlock vs. the one who helped author that old and ugly gridlock, is the only way to break the impasse.

Whether we recognize it or not, negativity makes all of us feel bad about politics and politicians.

The Clinton frame of reference -- "experience" "crisis" "vettedness," relies on concepts that are proxies for "familiarity." It's clever, because no matter how you slice and dice it, Clinton is the more "familiar" candidate and Obama cannot win on the familiarity front. When Obama responds to her apples with his apples, it reinforces the idea that all politicians are basically the same. But when he plays on his own turf, using his oratorical gifts to move us and fill us with hope, he reminds us all in a positive way that we don't necessarily think that Clinton's "familiarity" is a good or comforting thing.

Voters need to have a clear choice when they go into that booth: Not between Clinton's apples vs. Obama's apples, but between Clinton's apples and Obama's oranges. They need to have a framework that allows them to say to themselves: "I pick Clinton because she's familiar" OR "You know what? I really AM sick of the negativity and growing feeling of hopelessness that I've had for the last 7 years. I want something different. I want real CHANGE."

Just my 2 cents.

Re: This is our Moment
by LDP

If you think the repubs are going to let you love your candidate into the White House I have some swamp land to sell you.

You confuse me! Lets' talk about the future, and who can and will win the White House. I am not asking you to forgive anything, or anybody, that is for you to decide. I make the point that Hillary can win if she is the candidate, but if Obama is the candidate we stand the chance of a being defeated. More and more information comes out, not daily, but hourly on the Obama/Rezko connections. For heaven sake, do a search, it is not just newspapers, it is all the news media.

Need I say more?

Re: This is our Moment
by LDP

May I suggest that you join a monastery!

As for you guy not going negative, just read what his advisors have been saying. If you say; well he is not going negative, the advisors are. I say; then you mean he is not in control of his advisors? If that is the case, then how can he run the White House?

We won't have to worry about him in the White House because the Rezko trial will sink him before that happens.

Re: This is our Moment
by SandyB
Zebra, your post has been positively rated and well received. Don't sweat LDP's rantings, this poster does this, everyone else just ignores it.
Re: This is our Moment
by mar1976cus

Look at the bright side, you have a choice. Though it may be clone "A" and clone "B" at least you have your choice of hemlock. We Republicans are stuck with an old crusty criminal from the Keating 5 era, who bombed women and children from 30,000 feet and is called a war hero.

Obama will be another Jimmy Carter. He will walk into and roll around in sheer stupidity. The guy sounds nice and might be a really nice person, but he is clueless on what is going on in the world. Hillary though I hate to admit it, is the better choice, remember what I wrote about the other two. And considering she has only record of only hate and corruption, Having to pick from such a crappy threesome is sad.

Dear Mar1976cus
by zebra
It sounds to me like you need to go to learn more about Sen. Obama. I suggest that you begin by reading The Audacity of Hope. It's a great book on its own, but it will also give you more knowledge about the candidate, who probably is a "nice guy" as you say, but is a heck of a lot more than that.
Re: Dear Mar1976cus
by hawaiimike
The Rezko connection is a non-issue. Period. It will disappear. Hillary Clinton on the other hand is an issue. And her negatives are set is stone.
Re: Dear Mar1976cus
by hidaily
The Democrats lost their chance for true change when the media ignored John Edwards out of the race. But we still have a chance to make this election "historical" in the best sense of the concept. Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama - voters deserve this, the country needs this. Only the egos of the candidates and their supporters (like so many posting on this thread) are keeping it from happening.

And that's where real "change" begins, moving from the selfish narrow to the general good. You know, away from a Republican mind set to a truly democratic vision.
Re: This is our Moment
by chrisbz
"Obama will be another Jimmy Carter."

No, dubya is the new Jimmy Carter, and Obama very well be the new Ronald Reagan.


"he is clueless on what is going on in the world."

As opposed to Cheney and dubya, who are still waiting to be showered in rose pedals by the greatfully "liberated"?

Re: This is our Moment
by pwoxby

Zebra has it exactly right. Hillary Clinton can't overcome Barack Obama's lead in pledged delegates. She can only taunt him in the hope that he'll join her for a knife fight in the gutter. After Clinton wins the only kind of fight she's good at, she'll wave her bloody knife at the superdelegates and cry "I won!". No, Obama would be foolish to go down that road.

Obama 08!

Re: This is our Moment
by jpeykanu
zebra-

you are a poster of class. Very good post. Much appreciated.

Obaminate! O'Doyle rules!
Re: This is our Moment
by hidaily
Zebra writes:

“Presenting a clear choice: between a candidate who will help us turn the page on the old and ugly gridlock vs. the one who helped author that old and ugly gridlock, is the only way to break the impasse.

“Whether we recognize it or not, negativity makes all of us feel bad about politics and politicians.”

Calls for a magic speech “B” and “turn the page on the old and ugly gridlock” and fighting “negativity” will not heal the split in the Democratic party over the presidential nomination and take the process absolutely nowhere. What you say is all true or partially true, but the emotional commitment leading to the self-aggrandizement setting in among both Clinton and Obama supporters has created a massive case of mental constipation.

Read Obama’s lips, read Hillary’s lips, look into the mirror and read your own lips-- no one is ready to give up, sort out or compromise.

It comes down to this: Do the Democrats want to win in 2008? If they do, Howard Dean, DNC gray beards (to be chosen by each camp), and Obama and Clinton should sit down together now. They should establish tight rules on how the campaign should proceed.

So go to the only solution I’ve seen presented. The Seven Point Agreement (SPA).

1. candidates should be encouraged to let the campaign play out to the last primary,

2. Michigan and Florida will be required to abide by the party rules already in place,

3. both candidates will agree [and this really what it's all about, isn't it] to run the final primaries against McCain, not each other,

4. the superdelegates will be the deciding force should neither candidate gain enough delegates through the primary process,

5. both candidates, should they prevail, agree to offer the vice-presidency to the other candidate to accept or turn down,

6. the terms of this entire agreement will be made fully public as the means used to enforce its terms.

7. should either Clinton or Obama refuse the terms offered, the DNC should publicize this refusal as an act that puts victory over McCain and the Republicans in great jeopardy.


So get over it, Obama/Clinton imprinted my way or no way fanatics. There's a war on, there's an economy in shambles. McCain can win with your help.
Re: Dear Mar1976cus
by mar1976cus

I think with what is coming out we are learning more and more about Obama. Lets see his church is racist and supports nut case Muslim radicals like Farakan. Then we have a good friend of his who is on trial for stealing money from the little old lady (Sarcasim there). The longer Obama is in the spot light the more we see there is no hope of change. Its poltics as usual.

As Thomas Jefferson wrote in Federalist Paper 49. Elect someone who is known to the people.

Re: This is our Moment
by mar1976cus

Other than showing true stupdity in world affairs. What has Obama done? Can you name anything? Didn't think so.

Re: Dear Mar1976cus
by chrisbz
He does not support Farakan and only a hack would say he did given Obama's recent statements on the matter.

The Rezco thing loses more and more steam as more of the facts see the light of day, and all Hillary supporters can do is cry, "slumlord, slumlord, Daily Political Machine!"

What has his church done that is racist? Used the phrase "Black Community" on their website? That's hardly racist if you know anything about who lives on the southside of Chicago.

Marcus, your desperation is showing and its not a good look.
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