A blogger in Jerusalem writes as follows, as quoted on Slate:

"At Women's Lens, Aimée Kligman, who describes herself as "a modern American Sephardic Jewess," points to an account of Palestinians celebrating the attack and opines that "this is just the kind of thing which would obliterate any kind of world support for the Gaza Humanitarian problem. When people die on their side of the fence, no one in Israel starts to dance and distribute candy in the street. This is the basic difference between a civilized response to death and a terrorist response to death."

True. And there's another comparison to be made. A couple of months ago, scores of Palestinians formed a human shield around the house of one of their leaders, to prevent Israeli jets from shooting rockets at the house, and it worked.

How ironic. There is no group of Israelis, of any age or either sex, who could stand around a house in Israel, who would be respected as human shields by Palestinians who would refrain from bombing the house. Or bus, or school, or hospital, as they have shown. There can be no human shields in Israel--the notion is laughable-- because the Palestinian hatred and blood lust knows no boundaries. These macabre dances in the Gaza, celebrating as "heroic" the deliberate murder of teenage kids studying the Bible, are bestial.

Mr. Insaf

40 years.

40 years of occupation.

God fucking damn it. I mean, that has got to count for something, doesn't it?

If you were to take any Israeli, any American, any Englishman, any other human and deprive them of their freedom for a year let alone 40 freaking years....

Do I need to explain myself here about how those people would feel like?

Dancing? Are we Palestinians dancing? After 40 fucking years of hell how can it ever be a happy dance?

We might dance and move our bodies in a way Israelis and their cock sucking supporters dissaprove of, but deep inside the dancing bodies there's a mountain of sadness.

We just want to be able to react. To say something about our situation, somehow, sometime.

I mean, I don't even know how to articulate my anger at all this but I do want to see death, and more death and even more death.

I have lost my mind and I want to see Israelis die. Just die. I don't care how, I want them all dead.

But the death I'm looking for is the death of Zionism in the same way people all over the West rejoiced at the death of Communism.

What silly ideology.

And so is Zionism. Listen, you motherfuckers, you bastards, you fucking Nazis, we're going to do it. One way or another we are going to do it.

We outlived those fucking Crusaders for 300 years, those Turkish bastards for 400 years, the British and their French poodles for 100 years.

To outlive USrael will be no problem for us. None whatsoever. Because, you see, it all boils down to who wants to die for the land.

We are. They are not. And that's why 8 fucking dead Jews are so much more traumatic, so much more worth the attention than all of us Palestinians put together.

And, by the way, there ain't gonna be a fucking SHOA for us. Keep on dreaming you fucking bastards.

You mean sixty years--sixty years plus--and the name of the city is Al Quds, not "Jerusalem," which is the occupier's name--and I challenge anyone reading this to name a single victim of the occupation, the way the press so quickly names, dates and sexes dead Jews--it is just a matter of time--

It is a simple analogy and painfully true.

The posts claiming a right are sickening and the result of abusing children over generations as a means of continuing a murdering lust.

For them, Pity.

For their children, Pity.

For their methods, Pity.

For none of them were there before the Temple Mount.

“no one in Israel starts to dance and distribute candy in the street”. -This is quite simply untrue. There are rabid right wingers on both sides of the fence. The canonization of Baruch Goldstein is well documented. Before we go overboard in demonizing Palestinians in the wake of this crime, it should be remembered that the kill rate of innocents has for years been 10 to 1 in Israel’s favour. In recent months this has become 40 Palestinians for each Israeli killed. Neither is the Mercaz Harav Seminary a cloistered haven of humanitarianism: “Most of the delusional right-wing perpetrators and the mongers of hate for Arabs came from this flagship. Religious leaders such as Rabbis Moshe Levinger, Haim Druckman, Avraham Shapira, Yaakov Ariel, Zefania Drori, Shlomo Aviner and Dov Lior, all idolized by their students, raised generations of nationalist youths within those walls. Rabbi Lior, for example, head of the Council of Rabbis of Judea and Samaria, ruled in 2004 that the Israel Defense Forces was allowed to kill innocent people. How do these words sound now, after the attack in Jerusalem? Is the permission ours alone? Back then, Lior ruled that, "There should be no feeling of guilt at the morality of foreigners." He decreed that the Knesset could not decide to evacuate settlements, and that soldiers were allowed to refuse the order to evacuate settlers. Rabbi Druckman made a similar ruling.” <link>

This Jewish land is taken by moslem occupiers centuries ago. But worry not, the Jews have long memory. They will take this land back. This injustice won't last forever. Best thing is for you guys to walk back to Arabian lands, where you came from.

gringo_911:

This Jewish land is taken by moslem occupiers centuries ago. But worry not, the Jews have long memory. They will take this land back. This injustice won't last forever. Best thing is for you guys to walk back to Arabian lands, where you came from.

An invention called 'the Jewish people'

"There never was a Jewish people, only a Jewish religion, and the exile also never happened - hence there was no return."

- Professor Shlomo Zand (Tel Aviv University)

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Bloodshed in Jerusalem

By Chris Wilson

Extracts:

1/ Robin at Under the Holly Tree, who lived in the Middle East from 1975-80, implores her readers to "look at what Israel/Palestine is going through currently and ask yourselves if any acts of terror, either the state sponsored acts of Israel or the asymetrical (asymmetrical) terror acts of a certain faction of the Palestinian resistance movement has accomplished anything other than perpetuating more terror. Has vengeance achieved ANYTHING other than more vengeance by EITHER party?"

And

2/ Left-winger Kel at the Osterley Times asks whether the condemnations from the West are fair: "We can all join with Bush, Rice, Miliband and others in condemning this horrendous loss of innocent life. My question is why do Bush, Rice, Miliband and others find it so difficult to condemn such horrendous losses of life when the victims are Palestinian?"

Conclusion:

We either should condemn both acts or abstain since condemning this side and expressing support to that side, does nothing but enhances feeling of hatred.

PS. Jerusalem ( West) for Israel - - -Al Qods ( East) for Palestine

A simple sample of the eternal conflict :

PhilistineTheArtLover and gringo_911 each one whines from the brunt of anger which consequently increases more reciprocal hatred feelings among their people.

Philistine The Art Lover wrote:

> I mean, I don't even know how to articulate my anger at all this but I do want to see death, and more death and even more death. I have lost my mind and I want to see Israelis die. Just die. I don't care how, I want them all dead. >>

Well, you’ve eloquently articulated not only your anger, but also –as you have here admitted -- your mindless, murderous hatred of Israelis. Not the soldiers. Not the settlers. “Them all.” That was my contention, that too many Palestinians have so grievously lost your way as human beings that you have utterly jettisoned principle. You think that if you point out your suffering enough times, you’ll get your way. It isn't enough to point out the evils of your enemy; something else is needed. You can’t win justice, if you don’t demonstrate justice. You can’t get a principled situation in your land, if you don’t demonstrate principle in your conduct. No, you aren’t justified by your situation in having this murderous state of mind. You are not the only people on earth who suffer injustice. But I have a hard time finding anyone else on earth who suffers, who has so completely lost sight of what it is to be a principled human. While some Palestinians are cultured and principled, too many of you know only hatred, and violence, and counterfeit glorification of mass murder as “martyrdom.” You feed this poison to your children. You scoff at principle and elevate iniquity. Grow up, acknowledge the humanness of your enemy, seek a fair and principled solution, admit your own shortcomings – and you will witness a sea change in the support you receive from the rest of world society. Or: Keep your present course, continue to deny any wrongdoing, 60 years ago or at present, continue to abandon the principles in your holy book, feed the flames of hatred, continue to believe that if your loathing reaches white-hot proportions that somehow you will win—and the result will continue to be, that your economy further drops, and your mothers suffer, and your land reduces in size, and your moral authority weakens, and yet one more generation of Palestinian children goes nowhere. That movie "Golda" was right. She said that when you Palestinians love your children more than you hate the Israelis, there will be peace. Israel can also move far up the ladder in moral authority. It can abandon its sense of superiority; its soldiers can treat Arab women with respect; it can remove its soldiers from duty if they treat Palestinians as subhuman; it can train its people in the ways of respect; it can learn a proper respect for Islam, instead of feeding the flame of hatred of all things Islamic. There is plenty for Israel to do. Now stop looking at what *they* have to do, and start looking at what *you* have to do--and you might just make some progress. Act in a principled way. Maybe Israel will then, too. You could start by condemning the murders in the seminary. Mr. Insaf.

As an unbiased observer who has nothing against Jews or Moslems, I tried to understand the real reason for this eternal conflict between the descendants of Abraham (Ishmael and Isaac).

No use recalling the story of: Sarai and Abram and Hagar the Egyptian slave-girl. Centuries have passed now on the dilemma of who is or are the real landowners. And since we can not go back in time, and repeat or rebuild history; otherwise this conflict would never be as such.

I decided to consider that the problem was elsewhere, within hands of some politicians who, willingly, are manipulating this issue. How and why? Only time would reveal the secret. Till then, only innocents of both sides are paying cash. Personally, I do not think the issue of religion is the cause. I am afraid I might be misunderstood to say that both Arabs and Israelis were conditioned in a way that none of them was ready for "Reconciliation".

I- Conflict resolution is the process of attempting to resolve a dispute or a conflict. Successful conflict resolution occurs by (¹) listening to and providing opportunities to meet the needs of all parties, and (²) to adequately address interests so that each party is satisfied with the outcome. Conflict Practitioners talk about finding (³) the win-win outcome for parties involved, vs. the win-lose dynamic found in most conflicts. While 'conflict resolution' engages conflict once it has already started, 'conflict prevention' aims to end conflicts before they start or before they lead to verbal, physical, or legal fighting or violence.

II- Reconciliation"

1- We have been reconciled, we have exchanged hugs, and since that time we are mortal enemies.

2- The hatreds are so long and so hard, that the greatest sign of death in a sick man is reconciliation.

3- The real pleasure of the dispute is reconciliation.

4- Reconciliation is the equitable sharing of confidence.

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(¹)Palestinians and Israelis started this process <link>

(²)Up to now both parties are still complaining.

(³)No one is ready to accept the status quo.