(To “I Don’t Know How to Love Him” from Jesus Christ Superstar)

I don’t know how to love him,
What to do-how to vote for him.
I’m for change, yes, real change;
In these past few days, when I see myself,
I have to vote for someone else.
I don’t know how to fake this,
I can see that he won’t move me.
He’s a man, another man
And we’ve had so many men before,
In every way,
He’s just one more.
How to bring him down?
Should I scream and shout?
When it’s Hill I want?
Let my spirit out?
I never thought it’d come to this -
Gender’s what it’s all about.
Don’t you think it’s rather funny
We should be in this position.
We’re the ones who’ve always been
So smart, so cool, no slick guy’s fool,
Ready for the fight.
He scares me so.
I never thought it’d come to this,
Gender’s what it’s all about.
Yes, if he said he’d save us,
We’d be lost, should be frightened.
He couldn’t cope, just couldn’t cope.
We can’t turn our heads, can’t back away.
Hill’s the one who knows.
He scares me so.
We need Hill so.
We women know.

NoraLouise:

(To “I Don’t Know How to Love Him” from Jesus Christ Superstar)

We women know.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

These idiotic, reductionist appeals to gender over any other consideration are making me angrier day by day. You know, a lot of women have died in Iraq -- do I get to care about them? Because your girl didn't, she just cared about saving her political skin. Enough with Hillary's "feminism". It's entirely opportunistic, like everything else about her.

This is precisely the topic that my username derives from. Telling me that I should vote for Hillary because I'm female (which I am) is no less offensive than telling me I should vote for her because she's white (which I also am). And it is definitely a sign of the blind, unquestioning privilege many middle and upper class white women operate out of that they're confident that that's the most important issue to consider.

I finally get to vote for someone who had no part of setting this devastating war in motion, and you bet your ass I'm doing it. And if you think I'm less of a "woman" for doing so, you can kiss mine.

So when Senator Obama had the chance to support an authentic anti-war candidate in 2006 and help build support for peace in the US Senate did he endorse pro-war Joe Lieberman in March 2006 instead of pro-peace Ned Lamont? Could it have been - gulp - opportunism?

kick ass post Nora...especially the bit about throwing up in your mouth. That is exactly what that nauseating drivel deserves.

Oh crap...not nora...jerking. Nora...you are nauseating.

is that clear now?

oh noralouise, is a little research too much to ask? or maybe you just parrot the things you hear other people say?

obama, who has a history of supporting senior democrats, endorsed lieberman but made a point of saying he strongly disagreed with lieberman's stance on the war.

when lieberman went independent and lamont got the dem. nomination, obama backed lamont. <link>

lamont supports obama's candidacy.
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As did Senator Clinton.

So in other words, he did no better or worse than your girl did. Except for the minor little point about not having actually supported the war himself, as Hillary did.

Your skills as a debater are kind of stinky. Not unlike your poetry.

It is a shame you appreciate all feminist women like you do Nora.

See, Nora and her kind deserve it. The vast majority of feminist women don't.

In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, “On Iraq, on paper, there's not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago. […] There's not much of a difference between my position and George Bush's position at this stage.” [Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04]

The point is for a man who claims to be an organizer - a doer not just a talker - he did nothing to organize an anti-war presence in the Democratic Party or in the US Senate. When his rhetoric should have him embracing Lamont from the start, Obama chose the guy he described as his mentor, Joe Lieberman, quintessential hawk.

You know Nora, I consider myself a feminist and I'd love to endorse a woman for president. I'd love to, but it has to be the right woman and Clinton simply isn't that woman. Look at how her campaign has been managed - it's a shambles. She didn't have the forethought to step up her battle when Obama started inching into her lead.

I don't want someone who can't manage a campaign for president managing my country and the future that my children face.

kpiperj, George Bush's campaign was one of the best in history. Did he manage our country well?

I wish I could sit back and vote for programs that don't work, so that I feel good about myself. When are you smug white Baby Boomers going to stop calling your opportunism "feminism?" Do you even know what that word means?

Your girl doesn't have the political capital to get anything done, and I can't wait til my man knocks her out of the race. I'm tired of the pity narrative!

"When his rhetoric should have him embracing Lamont from the start, Obama chose the guy he described as his mentor, Joe Lieberman, quintessential hawk. "

I'm glad somebody else remembers this. As a Lamont supporter, I certainly do. It's also part of why I questioned his whole I-was-against-the-war-first thing. Lieberman is one of Bush's biggest cheerleaders for the Iraq war and the bombing of Iran (don't be shocked if he becomes McCains' running mate, he's endorsed him after all, not Obama or Clinton) and yet, Obama supported him? he's his 'mentor'. ugh. If Obama was so anti-war, why didn't he organize with others in the Senate? and why does he keep voting along with Clinton to fund it?

I'm so glad Lieberman was stripped of his super delegate status, as an I (so not a D) he doesn't deserve it.

Because it would have been a waste of his political capital, and he has a way better chance to end it as a President than he does as a Senator.