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Why bother voting?
by doctorfixit
Why have elections, when the pollsters can simply put the racial/ethnic/socioeconomic groups in their places and figure the percentages. Let's see, we have 90% of Hispanics for Hillary, 90% of blacks for Obama, 54% of <$50k for Hillary, yada , yada, yada, OK and the winner is - tada - Fidel Castro,er, I mean, Barack Obama!
The polls have missed, quite a bit recently.
by Tundrayeti

I think that there have been at least 14 states that the vote has missed the poll results by more than 10%... and that's comparing the average poll results.

It's one thing when you intrude on someone else's time and just ask "who do you prefer", especially when ~25% of people actually don't research the candidates until the day or the day before they go vote.

It's quite another to see who actually shows up and votes for whom. :)

Of course, you knew this and were being rhetorical... but I wanted to remind you of how consistantly the polls have utterly failed in this primary season. At this point it's amazing the news is still reporting them. :)

The polls and the media are
by elemenop2
in a tizzy this time around. They can't pigeonhole everyone like they usually do. And have NO idea what the public is going to do. This is a new era and they're still stuck in the past.
I think the problem is cell phones.
by Tundrayeti

They can't poll cell phones, and some rediculous percentage of the under 35 crowd have no land-line. My fiancé and I don't, and of all of our friends we know only 2 couples and 1 single that DOES have a land-line (that's out of ~40 people all told).

Regardless, it's kind of funny to watch.

Re: Why bother voting?
by Melvyl
Polls are like x-ray snapshots, only useful to the few who have an intuitive sense of how to read them, and not for long. The pols told you a while back that Rudy Giuliani was a strong candidate for President, and all you had to have done was watched any of his past campaigns for, say, a week, to know what was going to happen.

As for the Clintons, they're falling apart in Texas. Their advance men are in retreat, Dolores Huerta looks like an extra from Dawn of the Dead, and Bill has developed a tendency to drool.

They're out of gas. Running for president at their age is like having twins at their age, or nearly. Maybe not the gestation part, but the part after the kids come home and have to be fed twenty or so times a day, and never seem happy or at rest, and you have to get by on two hours a night and think this will get better in a couple months and it does not.

Obama is running right over them because he's young and he's doing it for the first time. Somewhere in that thirty-five years she didn't learn that you don't want to get into a footrace with someone who's younger and in better shape and was probably faster to start out with. I don't know WHY she didn't learn that, because she was around when Bill did the same thing to Bob Dole. And now she's Bob and Bill's Liddy, and isn't this all way too ironic?

She needs to be running the kind of campaign you run as an incumbent, with lots of help from the local leggies and state org, which they give you for free because you head up the national party. And when I say she Needs to, I mean she needs it physically. There's another kind of campaign she needs to be able to run this week and I don't know that she's up to it, or that her organization is up to it, either.

Watching this unfold is a little like watching one of those National geographic shows in which the ugly side of Darwinian selection is demonstrated and you hate watching it but can't turn away.

So stop acting like you're bored bored bored when you're not. This is like the best reality tee vee in existence. Polls are like stage props in the early months of a campaign, but this late you either don't need them or are beyond whatever help they might provide. This late you just look at the pretty horses and see which one falls over first.
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