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Islam has its place!
by AmericanBoy
Firstly, you may ALSO enjoy reading my posting "Bastion of Christianity" by AmericanBoy under the discussion about Anne Applebaum's similar article about sharia law and the pronouncemaents by the Archbishop. The Roman Senator, Cicero, said "sese cuique," to each his own! He too was referring to multiculturalism when Romans began adopting Greek language and culture. Now I ask whether England is part of the Christian World or of the Muslim World, or perhaps England wishes to be a hybrid culture straddling BOTH the Christian and Muslim Worlds...let's consider that! Perhaps France with its Moroccan population and Germany with its Turkish population (and others) would also like to join the INTEGRATED Muslim club; what would happen to the Christian World? By "INTEGRATED" I mean "INTEGRATED INTO (and be part of) THE MUSLIM WORLD"! You may have noted that Arabs make a big stink about what they view as "apartheid," but IF THAT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR OTHER CULTURES CAN SURVIVE, THEN SO BE IT, especially in what are supposed to be Christian countries!
Re: Islam has its place!
by maroci
Since this post isn't particulary coherent, I pretty much doubt I'd "enjoy" reading your other one. But thanks for the invitation.
Re: Islam has its place!
by AmericanBoy
I had to write the above posting while the cleaning person was vacuuming beside me, so I had to submit the posting before proof reading it! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A GENIUS to figure out that either by altering the word "CAN" to "TO" or changing the word "FOR" to "THAT" that not only does the sentence make sense but is obvious to all but CERTAIN PEOPLE; however, THESE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE ARE FORCED TO DEAL WITH! Islam is fine SO LONG AS IT REMAINS IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY, which is fine for BOTH THEM AND US, since THEIR PARTICULAR MENTALITY IS WELL SUITED TO THEIR OWN RELIGION! EACH PEOPLE DESERVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST IN THEIR COUNTRY WITH THEIR rather than somebody else's religion!
Re: Like an Irish wolf...
by Samson

she barks at her own shadow.

A lot of mess and fuss about nothing.

First I doubt if you were a boy second I'm sure you ignore a lot about Europe and maybe you know nothing more than what you have seen in documentaries, especially about Paris. As a boy -if boy you are- you should update your knowledge and vary your sources of information.

Both of you and your mother Anne Applebaum should know that France has its own African immigrants who participated in its liberation as well as in its development. People from the Maghreb (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya and Mauritania) who have lived and/or were born there in France met up with problems similar to those encountered the Afro-Americans. They were and still are considered 2nd class citizens. They were and still suffer discrimination and segregation. It is not Sharia law question; it's the way you look at this sample of Humans.

Islam phobia is the tree that hides Neo cons intentions; racism and deep grudges against all that isn't I would say "Pale faces"

Re: Islam has its place!
by b0nnylass
AmericanBoy--Britain is a largely secular society. Most people there don't give a toss about the Archbishop of Canterbury. So it's completely pointless to be wringing your hands about whether Britain is part of the 'Christian World' or 'Muslim World'...whatever that means.
Re: Like an Irish wolf...
by senbassador

"They were and still suffer discrimination and segregation."

I disagree with you there. I doubt that they actively suffer from segregationist policies. They segregate themselves because they don't want to mix with the non-Islamic people. I doubt all European Muslims are like that, but the ones that do live in Muslim areas do so because they CHOOSE to do so. Theres not much you can do about that.

Re: Like an Irish wolf...
by Paperback88
Segregationist policies, it is true, are quite out of vogue in most Western countries. What we're looking at here, though, is de facto land segregation based on the types of jobs that Afro Americans and other minorities in France (and most other European countries) get. It's actually quite similar to America, which has no written segregationist policies but still suffers from heavy segregation. I wouldn't argue that those that live in Muslim areas do so because of CHOICE, but merely because only that area has housing affordable enough for their second-tier treatment.
Re: Like an Irish wolf...
by Samson

Don't tell no more lies, lest nobody but you'll believe they are true.

By the way, I'll tell you something:

Every ass loves to hear himself bray.

Re: Islam has its place!
by AmericanBoy
Aren't there ENOUGH OIL REVENUES for those poor disadvantaged folks to remain in their own countries? Secondly, when they do come to Western countries they expect Westerners to ADAPT TO THEIR CULTURE rather than adapting to their new culture! Beggars can be choosers in Western countries because people like the Archbishop supplicate themselves--not having the spine to stand up for what they are supposed to--which is an INDEPENDENT Church! Would a really "Independent Church" adopt Sharia Law??? Is this why King Henry VIII SEPARATED His Church from Rome? Or, is Archbishop of Canterbury loyal to the "Church of Mecca"?
Re: Islam has its place!
by Samson

To so-called AmericanBoy!

Aren't there ENOUGH OIL REVENUES for those poor disadvantaged folks to remain in their own countries?

Those people were living and working there before Oil Boom which was and still savagely exploited by Greedy westerners.

I sincerely hope you could ask your grandparents the same question.

Secondly, when they do come to Western countries they expect Westerners to ADAPT TO THEIR CULTURE rather than adapting to their new culture...

What happened to the Cherokees, Apaches, Sioux and Cheyenne's culture?

Beggars can be choosers in Western countries because people like the Archbishop supplicate themselves…

Your grandparents were unfortunately once worse than that.

No wonder why you're trying hard to tell the world that you are "AmericanBoy"!!!

Re: Like an Irish wolf...
by senbassador

I was thinking along the codified kind. Sort of like in Israel.

Although you have a point with job discrimination, people can't stop you from living next door just for being Arab (save for pricing them out). The Arabs are **partly** to blame for being segregated in France and England. They make an effort to form communities to being around "their own kind." Thankfully, such mentality isn't AS pervasive in the US as it is in the EU.

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