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Anunnaki
by elemenop2
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I've recently been reading about the ancient Sumerians and their religion or myths. I have been totally fascinated by the connections between the "myths" and the subsequent Hebrew/Christian bible. I can't really say I believe a race of people from another planet came to mine gold? and in the process created the human race as we know it, but some of the stories are so close to the bible it makes you wonder.

In any case I would like some input from some of you [especially from JahSun if he sees this] as to what you all think of the anunnaki and the connections to the bible tales.

Thanks.............el

connections...
by dayspring

they aren't hardly connected, are they? Abraham came out of UR which was in lower Babylon close to where the river exited into th sea, the Sumerians lived in upper Babylon; it was a seperate civilization, and although close by and on the same river, it wasn't the culture that raised Abraham. Beyond that tiny influence, the Sumerians weren't that big an influence on the ancient world, their tablets are not highly reproduced in other cultures, in fact, they aren't replicated at all unless you count similarities.

Personally, I don't think they've got a good grip on translation for those tablets, you've got time spans in such huge numbers located in relative obscurity... any civilization that truly lasted ten ages would have left a much larger foot print.

Re: connections...
by elemenop2
Maybe you aren't seeing the "footprints" just because they are so large. Do some research on the ancient Sumerians, don't believe all you read but it is eyeopening.
Re: connections...
by elemenop2

they aren't hardly connected, are they? Abraham came out of UR which was in lower Babylon close to where the river exited into th sea, the Sumerians lived in upper Babylon; it was a seperate civilization, and although close by and on the same river, it wasn't the culture that raised Abraham. Beyond that tiny influence, the Sumerians weren't that big an influence on the ancient world, their tablets are not highly reproduced in other cultures, in fact, they aren't replicated at all unless you count similarities.

re: where Abram came from is in dispute, some say upper Babylon and some say lower. It was a separate civilization because they were much more advanced than any other culture at that time; they knew advanced mathematics and astronomy;their writing and language did not match any known language of the time,had no known derivatives of any other language; their cuneiform writing was copied and altered by those civilizations that followed as were their "myths"

Who ya gonna call?
by Heleva
Winston Zeddemore: Hey, wait a minute. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hold it. Now, are we actually gonna go before a federal judge, and tell him that some moldy Babylonian God is going to drop in on Central Park West, and start tearing up the city?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Sumerian, not Babylonian.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yeah. Big difference.
Winston Zeddemore: No offense, guys, but I've gotta get my own lawyer.
Re: connections...
by Th Paine
Is it not also the opinion of many scholars that Abraham was probably totally mythological?
Clearly!
by Uncle_Spike

Th Paine:
Is it not also the opinion of many scholars that Abraham was probably totally mythological?

Well yes, it is rather clear:

We are discussing the properties of elusive beings who leave large footprints that are hard to see (Sumerians) but there are plenty of stories out there about (Abraham) and some people swear exists....so clearly we have reached conclusive proof that Abraham is in fact Bigfoot.

Re: Clearly!
by elemenop2

And he sits on Mars watching us!

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Re: Clearly!
by Uncle_Spike

Yes! Which in turn is proof that the Sumerians were actually space aliens..even NASA agrees:

"Maybe it's really a tiny statue of Bigfoot, constructed by a diminutive alien race on its way back from a hiking vacation in the Pacific Northwest."

Which explains the math and writing....it's all coming together now.

Re: Anunnaki
by Th Paine

I have to say that I am agnostic as regards the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life forms, and considerably more skeptical about the possibility that any such beings have visited earth......

....but, if one were to speculate that there was a civilization far advanced from ours, and that it might have visited earth 10,000 years ago, it is not hard to imagine that humans would have considered them to have supernatural powers, and to imagine that such a visit could have triggered the formation of new civilizations.

Re: Anunnaki
by Uncle_Spike
While I don't doubt that somewhere there are other life forms, it is likely that we wouldn't recognize them as an intelligent life form even if we encountered them...(short of a big ass flying saucer hovering over the whitehouse)..and that if that did occur they wouldn't be flitting about performing anal probes on drunken hillbillies.
Re: Anunnaki
by Th Paine

...and that if that did occur they wouldn't be flitting about performing anal probes on drunken hillbillies.

No, in that case they would be performing anal probes of formerly drunken hillbillies. (Although I have read suggestions that Dubbya might be back on the sauce)

Re: Anunnaki
by Heleva

GACK!

LOL!

well, I'm glad that's settled...
by dayspring
meanwhile, the Bible states Abram came out of the city Ur, which was also clearly located in the southern end of southern Babylon; so southern that many feel it may have been a port city due to a slightly higher sea level in those days.
Re: Anunnaki
by Patrick

Oh, you're talking about that one author, what's his name. I'm know the series you're talking about. This author's theory is to be rejected on two accounts. I've studied some of it and won't name any references though (because I can't think of them off the top of my head).

First, he gets the language wrong, which seems to basically falsify his whole theory. He equates the nephilim with the anunnaki. There probably IS a connection though since the nephilim are black, according to Numbers, and the Anunnaki are of the Sumerians and so black in that regard too. Yet the language is wrong. For example, the term "nephilim" is actually an Aramaic loan word used in the Hebrew according to Michael Heiser. You can tell because there are actually two forms of the Hebraic nephilim found in Gen. 6:4 and Numbers (forget the chapter, look it up - possibly 30 or 31). The two different forms gives it away as an Aramaic loan word, which in the Aramaic simply means "giants". So the English translation of "giants" is quite apt. It doesn't mean "gods", "alien", or "angels". It's simply means "giants". And yet Numbers gave a retrospective where we understand these to have been black giants. The Philistines, for example, were likely black, so Goliath was black. If they weren't, the Philistines were still an intermixed breed. The earliest Egyptians were also of the Nephilim race: the earliest skeletons show taller bodies and a more elongated skull (and um, no, this doesn't mean "alien", it probably means some level of inbreeding).

Sorry, that was long winded. Second, physical evidence from the moon, mentioned from a book I don't recall but have in my possession, shows that the moon could not have come from the influence of some "Planet X", what's it's name - something like Nibiru (I forget, it's been a couple years).

So...no, aliens didn't come from a Planet X to interbreed with humans; neither did spirit-angels (as if spirits have DNA!). If there's any link between the Anunnaki and the Nephilim, it's the fact that the nephilim were black giants. As a side note, other myths across the world explain the three main reasons for Noah's flood: 1) they reveled in pleasure, described in the phrase "eat, drink, and be marry, for tomorrow we die", 2) they were violent - evident in the phrase "tomorrow we die", and 3) they were into cannabalism, which is ultimately where our myths of legends of vampires and werewolves come from (it doesn't originate with Vlad). The Sumerians had the, oh I forget the term, Ennib - bah, I forget! But this was basically a soul sucker, a spirit of the dead that ate the living. It's actually a merging of two myths: the myth that dead spirits rise, and the myth that had to do with Cannabalism. I came across this information in the "Ashes of Angels" book. It talks about how these vampires were giants. The Book of Enoch gives like evidence - they began to eat each other. And the other myth comes from the ancient Greek myth where Zeus destroyed the world because human's began to think of themselves as wolves, perhaps wearing wolf clothes and the like but basically eating human flesh - something like that. The myths of the vampires and werewolves are connected and basically one and the same. In short, the world was destroyed for: 1) lustful pleasures, 2) violence, 3) cannabalism...and...actually a fourth reason. The nephilim began to corrupt the proto-temple ceremonies, and you know what starts to happen when people mess with temple things. Take the Ark of the Covenant - touch it unworthily and you die, so as to avoid corruption. How do I know this? That, my friend, is for another discussion. If anyone posts on the main thread catching my attention by using "Patrick" in the title, I will discuss what I know. (In the end, it's actually quite simple. No one ever gets it right though - all scholars alike - because no one ever studies the Jewish temple.)

So the four reasons again: 1) lustful pleasures before war, 2) violence, 3) cannabalism to the victors, 4) some connection to the proto-temples.

But...the earth wasn't destroyed because of a bunch of aliens, who btw weren't even smart enough to do their own mining!!! I mean, come on? If you have all this technology and intelligence, you certainly don't need primitive slaves.

(That remains me, there was some Sumerian myth about a pickax. I forget what I concluded on that. But the pickax actually was a term for "falling star". Some sort of catastrophe is most evident - "extraterrestrial" if you like, but not as in "alien". It might be connected to the flood. I forget. Would probably have to read the myth again but am too lazy.)

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