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Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by Arkady
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The columnist is focusing on the side issue of whether blacks had overestimated the extent of their improvement on Clinton's watch, relative to whites. But the important point is that black America wound up much, much better off than they had been, through the course of the Clinton presidency. It's because this improvement was so dramatic that so many blacks could mistakenly think they were now better off than whites. Even though they were mistaken about that, they were correct in their more fundamental assessment of how they had progressed in the Clinton era.

I understand that the point of this piece isn't to educate anyone about what actually happened to blacks on Clinton's watch, but rather to try to benefit Obama's campaign. The author may not be particularly forthright about that goal, but she's amateurish enough with her propaganda that it's obvious. This essay is nothing but a cheap bit of rhetoric meant to drive a wedge between Hillary Clinton and her black supporters. But facts can be inconvenient things, and this time the facts are pretty hard to ignore.

When Clinton came to office, the poverty rate for blacks was 33.4%. That's not a typo. More than a third of black Americans were living in poverty. And it had been getting worse for years. Since hitting a low way back in 1974, the poverty rate for blacks had risen by more than three percentage points, over the course of those two decades.

Then, on Clinton's watch, things suddenly changed. The black poverty rate fell in 1993. Then again in 1994. Then again in 1995. And 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2000 (before finally rising again after Clinton had left office). By 2000 the poverty rate for blacks was the lowest ever recorded in American history. And this record low wasn't just a little lower than the pre-Clinton low from 1974. It was lower by a mind-blowing margin of 7.6 percentage points!

Little wonder that blacks tend to be fond of Clinton, and even to overestimate the extent of their improving fortunes on his watch. They had watched over the course of eight years as a very substantial chunk of the black community moved from below the poverty line to above it, in an era exactly coinciding with the Clinton presidency. This wasn't love born of Clinton "performing blackness;" it was love born of exceptionally good results.

The improvement wasn't just happening for blacks at the low end of the income scale, either. When Clinton came to office median real household income for blacks (in 2006 dollars) was $26,407. The overall trend had been one of declining incomes since 1978. But that trend reversed in 1993. As with poverty, the trend of improvement continued throughout Clinton's time in the White House (with consistent year-on-year improvements for every year except 1998). Then things again started getting worse after Clinton left office. At the end of the Clinton years, the median black household's income was up to $34,735 (again in 2006 dollars).

With a typical black household earning nearly a third more than they had just eight years later, there's a very obvious reason blacks would be predisposed to think well of the man who was in the Oval Office for that era. That's especially true when his era was contrasted by the dismal periods before and after he came to office.

Nor was the improvement only for poor blacks and middle class blacks. There was improvement right across the board. Median real incomes for black households improved dramatically, on Clinton's watch, for the 20th, 40th, 60th, 80th, and 95th percentiles, too. The Census keeps very detailed records on this, and their numbers are easily accessible online.

Nor was this improvement merely economic in nature. In one social statistic after another, life was improving for the black community in the Clinton years.. For example, there were dramatic decreases in black crime-victimization rates and in black teen pregnancy rates on Clinton's watch, too.

There's a temptation the chattering classes often fall prey to, to assume black political preferences are simply the product of ignorance. This set of assumptions is most commonly seen among Republicans, who'd like people to think blacks don't pick sides, politically, based on a rational understanding of the issues (since the contrary belief would mean Republicans must actually be bad for blacks). Lately, though, I've seen more of this kind of Republican-style recourse to arguments of racial ignorance coming from Clinton-bashing Obama supporters, who are annoyed that Hillary Clinton is still pulling good numbers from the black community, even when running against one of their own.

The enduring love blacks show towards Bill Clinton (and the glow that casts on his wife) is not the product of ignorance among blacks. It's simply a rational product of having lived through the last few decades. The fact is that blacks had been doing poorly for many years before Clinton took office, then had an amazing eight-year run on his watch, and have again been doing poorly in the years since. Misdirection won't change those facts.

It's sad to see such rank dishonesty from Ms. Harris-Lacewell. I'm sure that if she's looking at the stats she knows that she's being deceptive. She knows that the stats tell the tale of rapidly improving socioeconomic fortunes for black people in the Clinton years, after a long era of stagnation before Clinton took office. But she tries to obscure those facts, through rhetoric that would make a right-winger proud, and she embarrasses herself badly in the process.

Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by irvingchang
things were going so well for blacks under bubba, he took away their welfare checks.
Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by Arkady
Read up on welfare reform. Clinton vetoed it twice and threatened to go on vetoing it until the Republicans had modified it to include child care and other benefits to help people transition off welfare. It still may not have been a great law, but it was a whole lot better than it would have been with some Republican in the White House. And, one way or the other, blacks had gained so much ground on his watch that far fewer of them were relying on welfare in the first place.
Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by JackD
Everybody, not just blacks but Latinos as well and everybody else did better during the Clinton years. Pretty doubtful that it was because of Clinton in any meaningful sense. There was that matter of the tech bubble and "irrational exuberance" that self destructed as Bill left office (but not because he left office.) People giving him credit for that are pretty naive and are certainly not going to "get it back" by electing his wife but we're dealing with the American electorate (the one that elected
Bush twice, or at least once) and we should have learned not to expect much of that electorate. Are we seeing a replay of "Evita?"
Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by Arkady

The "tech bubble" excuse for the Clinton-era improvement is laughably naive. There are always bubbles of one sort or another going on. On Bush's watch, there was a housing bubble. Yet, as we've seen on Bush's watch, a bubble does not guarantee improving propserity. Since the end of the Clinton presidency, pretty much every indicator has taken a turn for the worse. Poverty is up, incomes are down, murder rates are up, the stock market is down, unemployment is up, the dollar's down, and the trade deficits up, the job creation rate is down, the budget deficits is up, and the average rate of GDP growth is down. The irrational exuberance of the housing market, from 2001 through 2006, didn't prevent that. So it's not enough to just whine "but there was a bubble" and think that explains away the Clinton-era improvement.

Good leadership matters. On Clinton's watch, we had a ferociously hard-working president with a brilliant mind and a practical outlook, and that made a huge difference. As you point out, it wasn't just good for black people. It was good for Latinos and just about everyone else, too. But, one way or the other, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that blacks would appreciate Clinton, when 20 years of stagnation for them gave way to eight years of epic improvement when Clinton came to office.

Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by irvingchang

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the black murder rate of and the perps spiked big time when bubba was around. see for yourself.

Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by thewolf05827

What specific policies of the Clinton Administration do you credit for the economy during that period?

Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by irvingchang

'What specific policies of the Clinton Administration do you credit for the economy during that period?'

robert rubin's book cooking.

Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by thewolf05827

Riiiiiight.... that must have been it.

<irony off>

Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by irvingchang

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check this stat out. the poverty rate dropped 5% in 6 years from 1959 to 1965 when the war on poverty was declared. it has dropped 5% in the 40 years since after spending trillions.

go figure!!!!

Re: Of course blacks did better under Clinton!
by thewolf05827
There are many interesting statistics on that page-- including many far more dramatic improvements than those just for the population broadly defined.
Give me a break, Arkady.
by keef2333
Clinton voted for welfare reform to protect his own political ass. Democrats lost Congress in 1994 and there was a real danger that Clinton wouldn't get reelected. He adopted more centrist and conservative principles for this reason and this reason only. When the issue became better conditions for African - Americans or Bill Clinton. Bill chose himself.
Re: Give me a break, Arkady.
by irvingchang

'There are many interesting statistics on that page-- including many far more dramatic improvements than those just for the population broadly defined.'

why do you clintoids and victim mongering democrats spew stuff that is so easily disputed? do you actually believe your own bullshit?

Re: Give me a break, Arkady.
by thewolf05827

Lost track of who you are responding to, maybe?

Re: Give me a break, Arkady.
by irvingchang
the current rate is still lower than any of the clintoid years. how do you explain that? i guess republicans suck at keeping the black man down as bad as they suck at everything else. right?
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