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Noah's essay
by johnnyb
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As ever, a liberal writer is so cowed by the fascisitc impulses of the modern GOP's media mavens that he feels compelled to utter the apologia that "America has never been close to being a fascist country."

Really, Timothy? Have we ever before in our history seen the complete dominance of various mass media by the propagandists of one party, coupled with a Supreme Court majority that barely engages in the pretense of argument and consideration, all the while asking, sub rosa, one jurisprudential question: will our decision advnace Republican political power?

Turn on AM radio any time of the day or night and listen to the biggest stations for a while. After about 10 minutes, tell me if you remember that radio broadcasters are licensees, not owners, of the AM bandwidth they occupy. After 15, tell me if you remember that in order to get a license, you're supposed to enter a covenant to serve the public "interest, convenience and necessity." Believe it or not, Tim, there was a time when AM radio wasn't the officially sanctioned smear/ attack/fundraising arm of the GOP.

The instances of fascism practiced by the Republicans when they controlled Congress are legion. Democrats hounded out of caucus rooms, denied the right to speak against legislation, funding for organizations viwed as unsympathetic to business slashed or cut off altogether. They didn't even try to obscure it; after all, their spiritual leader was Tom "The Hammer" DeLay. Both in his campaigns, which in 2000 featured hundreds of strategist-led shock troops literally shaking the building in Miami where recounts were taking place, and of course, in his presidency, George W. Bush's hallmark has been, and legacy will be, using government to crush dissent.

But the GOP's perfervid tango with fascism didn't start with Bush. Perhaps, Timothy, you remember Proposition 187 (1994) in California. I certainly do. The anti-immigrant rallies always lustily attended by uniformed law enforcement. The scurrilous attacks against teachers, school administrators, and civil rights lawyers that dared to challenge them in court. For doing that, and for openly attending their beer hall putsches to oppose them, I was beaten up, threatened, defamed and harassed at work by the "true patriots" that supported it. At least, unlike the federal judges that decided the legal challenges to it, I never received hand scrawled death threats at my house. Something else I remember about those days: not a single Republican -- and I mean not one -- ever asked that the stormtroopers take a step back, let alone respect the rule of law.

Maybe in the rarified world of journalism and criticism in which Jonah Goldberg has thrown some pretty good parties, none dare call it fascism. Down here, we knows it when we sees it. And feels it. And it's the GOP's stock in trade.

Re: Noah's essay
by San

"Democrats hounded out of caucus rooms, denied the right to speak against legislation"

And yet those like Murtha and Kennedy got tons of pork for their districts.

Funny how they accomplished all of that in your bleak portrayal.

Oh right, thats right, they were allowed to add TONS OF MONEY to their different interests, just like all the other Democrats.

They weren't shut out. They got exactly what they wanted.

Re: Noah's essay
by Adrasteia

"And yet those like Murtha and Kennedy got tons of pork for their districts."

And yet Republicans like Grassley and Stevens got more pork.

All the Democratic pork can't add up to the pork this administration has threw at bridges to nowhere, a pointless war, and a raped economy.

Pork is only part of the story, little san, try real legislation. This administration of non-partisanship made it abundantly clear that they embraced non-partisanship ONLY when the Democrats gave in and gave the Republicans everything they wanted. Your ability to think is frighteningly one dimensional. Get out from in front of your keyboard and experience the real world for a while and grow up while you're doing it.

Re: Noah's essay
by screwjack2007

"Get out from in front of your keyboard and experience the real world for a while and grow up while you're doing it."

But then he'd just end up getting his ass kicked over and over. Could speed the process, I suppose.

Re: Noah's essay
by Adrasteia
A good ass-kicking could only do him a world of good. I have never met anyone as naive as san. Or maybe the word is ignorant or intolerant or un-Christian.
Re: Noah's essay
by San

"And yet Republicans like Grassley and Stevens got more pork."

Except that the one who got the most amount of pork was Murtha.

Try again, child.

Re: Noah's essay
by San

"All the Democratic pork can't add up to the pork this administration has threw at bridges to nowhere, a pointless war, and a raped economy."

1. That war actually worked for the Benefit of Democrats, seeing a show most of the war money goes to tech-infrastructure in areas like Maryland.

2. That money increased the economy, spurred a lot of jobs, and provided tech jobs after the Internet bubble burst.

3. You have no sense of history, but I forgot, you are just a liar.

Re: Noah's essay
by Adrasteia
San:

"And yet Republicans like Grassley and Stevens got more pork."

Except that the one who got the most amount of pork was Murtha.

Try again, child.

As usual, you are wrong. It's sad when a child is more informed than you. You miss the Kewpie doll again, san. Must suck.

Underdogs
by Eigenvector

Amazing you've successfully transformed the entire Democratic party into kicked around underdogs overpowered by the stronger Republicans.

Perhaps what you really mean to say is that Democrats are ineffectual leaders unable to successfully compete ideologically/socially with their far superior Republican constituents.

Last I checked Democrats were still in the running, they must have gotten out from under the vast right-wing conspiracy to overthrow the government and replace it with a totalitarian regime. Striking story of a comeback. Almost like it was taken from a play or story of old....

Re: Underdogs
by Adrasteia
Eigenvector:

Amazing you've successfully transformed the entire Democratic party into kicked around underdogs overpowered by the stronger Republicans.

Perhaps what you really mean to say is that Democrats are ineffectual leaders unable to successfully compete ideologically/socially with their far superior Republican constituents.

Last I checked Democrats were still in the running, they must have gotten out from under the vast right-wing conspiracy to overthrow the government and replace it with a totalitarian regime. Striking story of a comeback. Almost like it was taken from a play or story of old....

You may be right. Dems may be very ineffectual. But it's pretty darn hard to be effectual when one party controls Congress and the Executive.

You're comments are cute but hollow. Pollitics is cyclical. The public asked for Republican domination and now, having seen how poorly they've governed they'll try Democrats for a while.

Ineffectual, yes. Far superior Republicans? No. More crooked Republicans, yes. Republicans that were much better at leveraging rightwingnut evangelicals and fear-based soccer moms to get what they wanted.

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