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Thank you for telling the truth
by catous6
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Finally someone else has the guts to tell the truth. As a black man and someone who legally migrated to the United States, I'm expected to be the classic Clinton/Democratic supporter, but I'm not. Even anecdotal evidence would have shown that the Clinton years hurt black more than whites, and the Clintons are comfortable with this. The losses of hundreds of thousands of jobs to China, India, Malaysia and Indonesia under the Clinton administration were defended under the guise of economic trade. Weakening America's ability to stay competitive with it's trading partners.
China has routinely bought up American debt in the form of bonds and investments with American banks. What does this mean to you, America owes China money to repay it's debts or bonds sold. We have become a consumer economy purchasing the majority of out imports from China. Which means that China can demand payment at any time for the bonds they have purchased if they disagree with anything that America says or does. Like a bank demanding you pay your entire 30-year mortgage today. Yet the Clinton administration ignored warnings from the CIA and NSA. I
It was through our economic might that western nations defeated the threat of communism. China has learned this lesson and has sought to use the same strategy to bring America to its knees. The INS under the Clinton administration was directed regularly force repatriate thousands of Haitians. But allowed Cubans in an effort to shore up the Cuban vote in Florida. By the way, why didn't they ever go back to Arkansas after he left office? Why New York City to an office and apartment where they're rarely ever at?
There is an expectancy that with the 'First Black President' title all the Clinton machine has to do was send out Bill and Blacks in America would be 'stepping and fetching' like good old field hands or Amos and Andy. Ever wonder why The Clinton Campaign wants to focus the election season on race in a xenophobic effort to scare the white voters away from senator Obama. They believe they can trot out Jesse and Al and then pat us on the head like good lil Negroes. Expect us to be quiet 'cus massa Bill gon' fix it!' How stupid do you think we are? The largest financial, educational and economic gains for Black Americans and ALL Americans were made in the last eight years.
Yes, yes, yes, 'Bush this, Bush that.' Did the Clinton administration make it easier for everyone to purchase his or her own homes? - NO!! Did the Clinton administration focus on education so teachers have to teach your children instead of just passing them on to the next grade? -NO! Did the Clinton administration ever give you a rebate of your money? -NO!! Did you know that by April 15 you've paid all the taxes required to run the government? Did the Clinton administration make it easier for ALL Americans to start their own businesses? - NO!! Increase their standard of living? -NO!! Did they raise taxes? -Yes!! Did they penalize you for succeeding? -Yes!!
It's time for ALL Americans not just Black Americans to wake up and see that truth. The worst years in American history economically have been under the Clinton administration. Time to see them for who they really are.

Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by thewolf05827

"The losses of hundreds of thousands of jobs to China, India, Malaysia and Indonesia under the Clinton administration" So then unemployment rose dramatically under Clinton?

"Which means that China can demand payment at any time for the bonds they have purchased if they disagree with anything that America says or does" Nope. Treasury securities are due and payable on their due dates, period. If China-- or any other holder-- wants its money early, their only option is to sell their securities in the open market.

Stop and think.
by Arkady

Check the stats. What you'll see is that the Clinton era was one of remarkable social and economic improvements for black America. Unemployment for blacks dropped dramatically and so did the poverty rate, median incomes rose for blacks, as did incomes at every quintile. Black crime victimization rates and teen pregnancy rates plummeted.

Those are simply facts. If you'd like, you can feel free to argue that it was simply a coincidence that all these things improved so dramatically during an eight-year period exactly coinciding with the Clinton administration. You can argue that it's a coincidence that a couple decades of stagnation for black America gave way to that short, bright era of improvement just as Clinton took office. And you can argue that it's a coincidence that those years were immediately followed, starting in 2001, by another period of stagnation for black America. I suppose it's possible that it was just a wildly improbable set of coincidences. But it surely shouldn't be a surprise that most black Americans feel quite positively about Clinton, in light of how well the community did on his watch, coincidence or not.

I know it's more fun to hide out in the halls of Republican propaganda, but come on out into the real world for a moment and take a look around. The historical statistics are easily and widely available, from the Census, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the Department of Justice, and the Centers of Disease Control. Browse the historical records and look at pretty much any major socioeconomic indicator from the Clinton era and the eras preceeding and following it. What you'll see, time and again, across a wide array of statistics, is that the Clinton era was an island of dramatic improvement for black America, amidst a sea of stagnation. Out here in the real world, those are the facts you'll need to find a way to cope with.

Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by Sharpchefjeff

Now that you just came down from that...Washington Rock...

That is the biggest load of redundant slime covered republican bullsh*t I've read all day. What are you smoking?

Economically the years that Bill Clinton was in office was the largest bloom of growth this country has seen since the 1890's...what rock have you been hiding under?

Ignored CIA warnings?

Who was in a school filled with children, when 9/11 was about to go down? A practice used by every Government in the world to protect a political asset!!!!

The Bush administration knew about 9/11, and did nothing, but hide our scum bag president from harm!!!

Have you seen the foreign trade deficit? We are in the Trillions, again, after Clinton put us into the black...

If you didn't rise up during those years...put down the blunt!

Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by Arkady
Don't bother the poor little dear with facts.
Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by thewolf05827
Lost my head for a second...
Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by Sharpchefjeff
Look down!! lol..wow..someone lost something...Richard Prior needs to get out the vacuum!!
Re: Stop and think.
by Lemis66
Thank you Arkady, for the truth. Simply saying something as some many of the candidates are doing and their surrogates doesn't make it true.
Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by catous6
Largest growth directed by whom? Clinton? Clinton actually orchestrated the boom like Gore invented the internet!! You obviously have never studied the use economic power as a weapon of war. The groundwork for the economic boom in the 90s led by the tech industry was laid before Clinton got into office. All he did was increase taxes upon blacks like myself who struggled to maintain even a modest standard of living. Middle class Americans lost jobs in the thousands as the Clinton administration made it easier for them to take manufacturing jobs overseas. Leaving us to become a service industry led or basic consumer economy. Wait, that went down that drain as service jobs are divested overseas as well. So if we don't make anything, all we can do is buy everything. You'll understand when they tell you that you're being fired because they're moving overseas. But the last assignment you have for the company is to travel abroad and teach the people who're replacing YOU!!! The Bush administration knew about 9/11 and did nothing - crack is whack and you better get off that pipe Bobby!!! The government of Sudan offered to hand bin Laden over and Clinton refused!!! The CIA knew that Bin Laden was flying in a private plane and asked Clinton for authorization to shoot it down and Clinton refused!! So don't invoke 9/11 to defend that coward when he had the opportunity to prevent it years earlier!! As to the foreign trade deficit you need to study basic economics. If we allow businesses to move overseas manufacture products and sell them back here that affects the deficit. If we allow 'most favored trading nation' trading status so they can dump their cheaply made products in our market that affects the balance of trade. If we cannot trade fairly with other nations because they artificially make our products more expensive in their markets that affect trade. PUT DOWN THE GLASS PIPE !!! Or keep sit your @ss down shut up and wait for your welfare check to come in the mail. That's from a real BLACK MAN!!!
Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by Lemis66
Do I smell some swift boat lies?
Re: Thank you for telling the truth
by catous6
Remember that at that time the telecom industry deregulation occured under Clinton. Remember when 44,000 people were laid off in one week. Cities were going broke and the federal government was threatening to take over cities that couldn't pay their bills (Miami and DC) to creditors. Treasury Bills are payable upon demand. You can hold them and wait for full interest or or demand payment for them immediately with interest accrued to that point. People only sell them on the open market to someone who wants the promised interest at a later date. Clinton's major promise was that he would protect social programs like welfare. But did nothing to get people off welfare. If you encourage an educational system that does not educate minds, passes them off to the next grade like cattle. Does not teach the value of a good education or encourage people to get out of that cycle of degredation and poverty. what have you achieved but created the next generation of welfare recipients?
Re: Thank you for telling the truth....lol
by Sharpchefjeff

No thats just Gerry Curl!!

Please...what are you trying to say here? Clinton ruined your life, when your running it?

BLACKMAN-WHITEMAN...you run your life...and if the TAXES...lol...was killing you, stop working at Burger King, and get an education, or something!!

Please...your killing me here...Clinton helped the working class.

When the guy was elected, what did he do....he opened up the f**king White House and allowed for the first time in America, a meet, and greet of him, and Al Gore.

Do you forget that???? People of every class, skin color, and ethnicity walked up, shook his hand, and met the New President of America.

When the scum bag we have now won the office, what did he do?

Held a freaking ball for the wealthiest, of the wealthy, fur coats and black ties walked up, and shook his hand.....

Who did what for you? Who gave a sh*t for you?

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

Re: Thank you for telling the truth....lol
by catous6
Sharpchefjeff, The 'Jeri curl' (spell it right) and 'burger king' comment was spoken like a true 'educated' white liberal. You ever notice whenever you liberals are defeated in a debate you resort to profanity and name calling. Your little world is shattered so you have to debase the argument with rantings and liberal party rhetoric!! You see I've never worked at Burger King or used jeri curl products. The proud Americans who work at Burger King don't need their labors sullied with your putrid venom. Your deep seated racial biases have risen to the front to show your true colors. You like Bill Clinton are a bigot and there's no other way to say it. You feel a white house tour makes up for selling the country out. Oh, exactly what night did you and Wen Ho Lee say in the Lincoln bedroom? Or maybe you couldn't afford it then or now!! A hand shake and public tours makes up for selling American interests to Chinese businesses and the PRC? Man you liberals are laughable when you grasp at straws. But that's okay. You see it's what me and others like me do daily that gives liberals and draft dodgers the right to live free in this country. But that's above your station. Someone like you would never know the duty, pride and honor that's required to defend the country that you hate so much. GOD BLESS!!
Re: Thank you for telling the truth....lol
by catous6
Oh and 'Sharpchejeff' it's spelled " you're " if you want to use the possessive pronoun. HAHAHAHA you want to tell me about getting an education and can barely spell!!1 man YOU'RE full of it!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA­HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA­HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA­HHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA STUPID LIBERAL!!! GO BACK TO GRADE SCHOOL THEN COME CHALLENGE ME!!!!!
Re: Stop and think.
by catous6
YOU CLOWNS ARE FUNNY!!! You believe that a little song and dance directed the growth of the 90s. The Clintons so screwed up the mix the Dems lost Congress to the Republicans for the first time in 40 years!!! They economy of the 90s rode the tide of Microsoft growth and the Tech industry boom. Not the Clinton economic policies!! BTW the Clinton administration spent 8 years trying to destroy Microsoft if you remember. Ask Bill Gates if he has any love for Billary and see what he says. What did the Clinton's do to encourage Blacks to grow economically? What did they do to ensure minority investment in the tech industry? The tech industry burst before Clinton left office, but maybe you were old enough to vote in 2000!! To paraphrase Amy Winehouse 'NO!NO!NO!' there was no stagnation in the economy after 2001. The ripple effect of the rise in the tech industry paved the way for investment in the housing market that continued US economic growth. That growth made it possible for many Blacks to invest in and own their homes. Many Black millionaires were created by the expansion of the housing industry. Rule changes allowed them to secure more investment capital than was available under Clinton. But you could read your bureau of Census data and find facts that are not in evidence. Ignore the fact the Clinton administration deported more blacks than any other administration ever so they can posture and position for "BILLARY '08".
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