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Fool Me Thrice
by TeddyK
I was with you until you dragged in Toni Morrison, who claimed that Clinton exhibited "almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-lovin­g boy from Arkansas". Her observation, in defense of Clinton in the context of the impeachment, was that any black male would be familiar with this pattern: no matter how high you fly, they're bound to cut you down in the end. I don't see in her remarks a defense of promiscuous behavior as much as a castigation of hyprocritical whites beating up on a brother.
Re: Fool Me Thrice
by DrEdF
Are you people smoking crack? The only person playing the race card is Osama Obama. How interesting! First Hillary is blamed for playing the gender card when it was Osama Obama that fuel and fanned that charge. Now Bill is being charged for playing the race card when Obama and his uppidy wife are the ones that have played the "poor me the black" being picked on. Had Hillary spoken and/or treated Obama the way he has treated her, there would be race riots. The media needs to stop giving Osama Obama special treatment. Oh that is right, silly me, Obama is black; hence, deserving under law to have special rights.
Re: Fool Me Thrice
by Walter Rego

Obama's win in SC has proven what everybody knows but the lamestream media is afraid to say. That is, that black people voted for him because he is black. And since everyone knows it, permission has just been given to vote against Obama by white people since there is no difference in the motives.

Obama is seen, rightly or wrongly as someone who would give special attention and privileges to black people. That means he would not be a President for ~all~ Americans and is undeserving of anyone's vote. Not withstanding he's a socialist and appeaser to America's enemies. You think GWB screwed things up and it couldn't get worse? Just pray that a Democrat doesn't get elected. If I were Obama I'd distance myself from that bloated drunken hard core leftist womanizing Ted Kennedy too, but that's just another example of Obama's lack of common sense.

Re: Fool Me Thrice
by piper
The truth hurts of course, Obama won in S.C. because he is black and this is fine if you are a person who does not have the responsibility to vote on the issues. Everything in life is based on experience and to make chnges on anythig you need knowledge and experience. Jessie Jackson backs Obama if that tells you who is deciding on race alone. I truely like Mr. Obama but feel he is not a strong leader. He does give a great speech but has little knowledge of many important issues. One last thing, Kennedy does not impress many people he has a reputation of a boozer who is a friend of Chaviaz, gee thats good company no thanks.
Re: Fool Me Thrice
by piper
The truth hurts of course, Obama won in S.C. because he is black and this is fine if you are a person who does not have the responsibility to vote on the issues. Everything in life is based on experience and to make changes on anythig you need knowledge and experience. Jessie Jackson backs Obama if that tells you who is deciding on race alone. I truely like Mr. Obama but feel he is not a strong leader. He does give a great speech but has little knowledge of many important issues. One last thing, Kennedy does not impress many people he has a reputation of a boozer who is a friend of Chaviaz, gee thats good company no thanks.
Re: Fool Me Thrice
by isabelle jones

The media, needs to stop focusing on race. The focus should be on the economy, and the war. There are men and women out in Iraq fighting to protect this country. Why is the media, so focused on race? Mr. Obama is a great candidate, so is Hillary." STOP THE HATE". African Americans, and White Americans, need to move beyond the race issue. As a woman, I'm concerned about the education system in America, Health care, crime, gun control. Stop the drama.

Re: Fool Me Thrice
by l_hedoniste

Hitchens either fails to note or simply ignores the fact that Morrison's claim is not to address black mens' promiscuity, their saxophones, or their love of McDonalds, but rather their their familiarity with unfairness, suspicion, and overzealous prosecutors.

But seeing this would require a good-faith reading, something Hitchens isn't particularly good at.

Re: Fool Me Thrice
by JGT

OK, Isabelle. Nice sentiment. Now I suggest you follow that up by taking your own advice. If you want the issues to be forefront, rather than race and gender, why are you qualifying your statement by telling us your gender? What does your concern about education, health care, gun control, etc. have to do with "As a woman..."?

Seriously, take a moment and analyze why you felt it was necessary to tell us that you are a woman. Are the issues you stated somehow "womens issues"? Or does the fact that you are a woman add credibility to your comment? Or subtract credibility? I don't know what your motive was, so I'm not going to try to pass judgment on you. But it reminds me of the old newspaper headlines, which instead of saying "Suspect held in robery case", might say "Black man in robery case", but would never say "White man held in robery case".

If you don't think race should be an issue, why are you making gender an issue?

Re: Fool Me Thrice
by candoxx

Despite last week's brilliance on Huckabee and the "confederate" flag, Hitchens does not understand race in America...or how very minor his subject matter in this article is.

For instance, he does not understand that the ONLY reason the Repugnants ever went along with the Civil Rights Act in the first place was because they were triangulated by the existence of the Soviet Union, whom they feared. The rebellion not only embarrassed them globally, it threatened their Cold War status as lovers of freedom and democracy.

They also had a war in Vietnam on their hands at the same time they had the Civil Rights Movement (which was itself precipitated by the industrialization of the South that began during World War II as war production) by the Northern industrialists. The war at home was invading the army in Vietnam, so well summed up in the "No Vietnamese ever called me Nigger" posters of the time.

At the same time, the cotton stripper had been invented, which reduced the labor on the land to almost zero as to picking cotton.

They also thought by placating the "blacks" they could get their support for the war in Vietnam.

They never had ANY intention, and still do not, of obliterating the oppression of African Americans in the USA...but "oppression" is about how you work, and how you are treated at work, and now African Americans are workers, or they are unemployed, or they are in prison, just like white workers, matter of fact.

But we are not talking about any of this are we? Oh, no,, we are talking trash about the Clintons and gender and race, la la la la.

Big fat WHOOP. I want a 6 hour work day. The working class has earned it. Fact is, I'd rather have a 4 day work week, because then parents might see their children once in a great while. How about some REAL family values, eh?

But we are not talking about that, nope, we'd rather hear our heads rattle, talk garbage.

Texas, Dallas in particular, was one of the two financial hubs of the South/Confederacy. Read J. Frank Dobie on the subject, its brilliant.

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