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Who here believes the USA will exist in 200 years?
by Intransigent_Mind

I'd like to know who believes that fantasy.

Oh, sure there will be some country here, but not the USA as constituted in 1792.

Who believes it will exist in 100 years?

50?

20?

All things die. Stars, with lives stretching across billions of years, are still subject to death. In the end, they puff up, burn up the last of their fuel, and collapse under their own weight. And that old maxim remains true: "The bigger they are, the harder they fall." The most massive become black holes.

What makes any person so delusional as to believe the USA can avoid an ultimate collapse based on an ungainly weight and a hollow middle?

IM

Re: Who here believes the USA will exist in 200 years?
by Anse
Hey, socialist France is over a thousand years old...
Re: Who here believes the USA will exist in 200 years?
by HST-libertarian
I'm not sure the earth will be here in 200 (or even 50) years...
If there's no nuclear war
by Horus

...and global warming hasn't destroyed the world's political structures, then yes, there'll be a USA here 200 years hence.

It will likely be weaker and less independent, and might be a Christian Theocracy....but it will exist, yes.

We are not TODAY as we were "constituted in 1792," for that matter. Not sure why you're so worried about the future, given the amount of change that's already taken place.

Re: Who here believes the USA will exist in 200 years?
by HST-libertarian

Anse:
Hey, socialist France is over a thousand years old...

Yes I agree Anse, I think the US will become a euro-like socialist-lite economy for 50 or 100 years as China and India duel for the top spot (wealth and power wise)...

France is no more the same country today
by Intransigent_Mind

as it was 200 years ago than the UK.

Do you really think it can persist, something like it is, for very much longer?

IM

Sad part: It doesn't have to be that way
by Intransigent_Mind

but plenty are happy with it.

IM

I think we will still be here.....
by ZealotforTruth

Although in what form, I have no idea.

Great Britain is still around, even though they are nothing like the empire they were in the 18th and 19th Centuries.

The reason I believe there will still be a viable "American Civilization" is because the STRONG point of our culture is "Adaptability."

At worst, I could see a "fragmented" Political map of North America, albeit with a loose confederation of closely allied North American States....

But who knows? That is a long time to predict.....

Barring some unforeseen cosmic catastrophe
by Intransigent_Mind

the earth will be here.

IT will be here when the last man draws his breath. It may take billions of years, but it will die, like everything else.

In the mean time, however, men will rise and fall. Species will go extinct and new ones will arise. Only man, among those now present, has any ability to prevent his own extinction.

Why is it that you insist he must not?

IM

ZFT, that misses my point
by Intransigent_Mind

or perhaps adds to it: The US, as currently constituted, meaning specifically, living under the Constitution of 1792, will not exist 200 years hence.

IM

Horus, global warming is the least of your worries
by Intransigent_Mind

Instead, you might start asking what happens when your freedom dies.

IM

It's been dying slowly for a long time
by Horus

...what's the sudden concern? Granted, between Neocons and corporations, things are worse than ever these days, but really, where's the fire?

It's almost a given that we'll end up seeing another Revolution in America within the next couple of decades - or else see the lockdown completed.

Myself, I'm ready for the barricades...:)

The Sudden Concern?
by Intransigent_Mind

People have been warning you for 100 years. You did not heed them. Do you really think you will survive that lockdown?

I will.

IM

I disagree....
by ZealotforTruth

I think that the "Constitution" will still be a Central Document for the vast majority of North America.

Already, it is the basis for the "Constituions" of numerous OTHER nations, and certainly for the vast majority of the United States.

Of COURSE it will "change," as there are mechanisms IN the document for exactly that.

So no, we will NOT be the "same" people. But, for the most part, I think that the IDEALS in the American Constitution will still be in play, and that document will still be the basis for our form of Government, whatever it is.

Re: Who here believes the USA will exist in 200 years?
by tsedek
It will, but likely as changed as in the last 200 years. GB still exists, France, Austria, and so on, although the governments and economies are much different the culture and language and historical continuity still continue. China is much older than any of them.
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