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Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by progressivebulldog

I was quite happy with the Clinton presidency. I don't agree with Hitchen's that all of the women who accused Clinton were telling the truth, especially the one who accused Clinton of rape. This is an unproven allegation and Hitchen's should keep in mind that in this country you are considered innocent until proven guilty.

Nevertheless Clinton was (and likely still is) a philanderer and Hillary knew this. I often think that she was not so upset at Bill for having an affair with Monica Lewinsky but rather that he he let himself become exposed.

I believe in the sanctity of marriage and I don't believe in cheating on your spouse, period. If you can't be faithful then you shouldn't be married. Still I could see Hillary forgiving Bill once but it's common knowledge that Bill was a serial philanderer.

Given this fact why is Hillary still with him? Is it because she is a an almost unbelievably forgiving woman? She doesn't strike me as the type. The real reason that she stayed with Bill then must be that it is the politically savvy thing to do. By remaining married to Bill she can claim 8 years of "experience" helping to run the country whether true or not.

Frankly I would be a lot more impressed if Hillary learned from her experience of being married to a cheater and dumped Bill. Do we really want someone so sorely lacking in good judgement running the country? Can we really afford 4 to 8 more years of a president who cannot learn from mistakes?

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by The_Rodfather
You didnt see Barbara leave George Sr did you ? You didnt see Jackie leave JFK did you? You didnt see Elanor leave FDR did you? Why should Hillary leave Bill? Maybe she loves him and he is the father of their daughter, did you ever give her that consideration?
Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by marykins
She learned long before she married or Monica that she needs Bill to get what she wants. I don't condone Bill's cheating, but I do feel Hillary has used Bill from day ONE to get to where she is. She can grasp any facts, like a sponge - but - she cannot think for herself. A 'book' geek that lacks common sense and good judgment.
Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by The_Rodfather

you assume too much.

Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by wayhey1
More than a decade has passed and some people still care this much about someone else's tryst? Obsess much?
Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by Bripirate
Thank you for that! I can't understand all the vitriol aimed at Hillary, not because of her politics or her plans for change but because of a personal choice she made that is really none of our business. I think these posters that castigate Hillary for staying with Bill are just vile sour ole bitches without any life of their own. Stay out of Hillary's personal life, she's not poking around in yours!!
Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by Adrasteia
Hooray! For you and The Rodfather.
Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by progressivebulldog

The_Rodfather:
You didnt see Barbara leave George Sr did you ? You didnt see Jackie leave JFK did you? You didnt see Elanor leave FDR did you? Why should Hillary leave Bill? Maybe she loves him and he is the father of their daughter, did you ever give her that consideration?

Bill would still be Chelsea's father regardless of whether the Clinton's stayed married. Hillary certainly has the right to stay with Bill no matter how many affairs he has but to my mind marriage is about being committed to your partner. I would not cheat on my wife not just because I believe it's wrong but because I love her and wouldn't want to hurt her with an affair. I trust that she wouldn't betray me in this way either.

Hillary knows that she is married to a man she cannot trust. That is her right but my point is that in my opinion staying married to a man you cannot trust shows very poor judgement.

It's her business until she runs for office then it becomes the public's business because there are times that the president has to act quickly and decisively and so judgement is key.

Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by The_Rodfather
LOLOLOLOLOLOL so committed to your convictions, LOLOLOLOLOL
Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by stevo238

What Mr. Hitchens does so well here is to point out that the Clinton's will lie about anything. I think we all knew someone like that in High School. The more we knew about them, the more we would shake our heads. It's never their fault. It's always outside forces inflicting themselves on these poor people.

Like Bill, a shameless good old boy from Arkansas, she has now taken the mantle and will do anything or say anything as a means to an end.

Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by OldRich

It surprises me, the more I think about it, how much the Clintons resemble Richard Nixon from a political viewpoint. Like Nixon, they will say or do anything to obtain or retain political power, and like Nixon, the focus is always on them, rather than the problems that the nation faces or the major concerns of the moment.

At this point Bill is Hillary's worst enemy, and I just hope that he continues to be successful in that role. Taken one at a time the Clintons are bad enough, but together they are completely unpalatable: at least I'm betting that is how the voters will perceive them.

Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by delonix

It were unmanageable to be so unforgiving as you insist.

Either you respect others' rights to make their own minds up about staying with a straying spouse, aborting a foetus to improve a family's lot, or throw their own resources down what you think is a rathole -- or you don't. Law do draw lines where judgement should intrude.

Cast the first stone elsewhere.

Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by wrshamilton
Inflammatory, misogynistic trash. Congratulations Slate, on slowly turning yourself into the New York Post.
Re: Did Hillary learn from her "experience?"
by NickAtNight

I can't understand all the vitriol aimed at Hillary

It's simple really. To modify a Clinton election line - IT'S THE CORRUPTION, STUPID.

One of the top donors to her Senate campaign is suing her - Peter Paul.

One of her top bundling donors was just convicted of fraud. She went from saying he is okay, to well we will return $2,000, no? how about $20,000? okay how about $1,000,000. Mr. Hsu and Mr. Paws are just the tip of that iceberg.

A recent fundraiser for her was canceled because the host was indicted.

Then the following week yet another fundraiser was canceled because Mr. Gupta, a major Clinton donor AND the CNN polster (talk about a conflict of interest) was also indicted.

It is about the 800 FBI files that the Clinton's illegally got hold of when they were in office.

It is about the daily scandals that characterize the clinton years.

It is about the whopper's that they routinely tell.

It is about the windmill of positions she takes on any issue. What is her position? Wait a minute and it will change.

It is about them selling the Lincoln bedroom for campaign cash.

Is is about them putting a cocaine dealer in charge of White House security.

Do we really need to go on?

Please stop the misandry
by NickAtNight
Inflammatory, misogynistic trash. Congratulations Slate, on slowly turning yourself into the New York Post.
Please stop with the misandry. Keep the corrupt clinton's politics of personal destruction to yourself.
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