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I'm glad it's a contest
by nerdnam

Let the best human win!

I'm also very glad the polls are now proven beyond doubt to be complete useless baloney. In a world where information is so fluid, where anybody can get the news exactly when they want it and can instantly communicate to their friends exactly how they feel about it, you can't trust the polls, not even exit polls. The public mind can change over a day's time, even on election day. The public mind is no longer a static, predictable thing. And that's a great thing to know and a great situation for a democracy.

The reality is that no longer can anyone assume they know what's going to happen on election day, and the take home message is that you better get out there and vote for your candidate if you hope for that person to win. And that's going to be a true fact no matter whether the polls say your candidate will win or lose.

Re: I'm glad it's a contest
by Kathy Sammons
I hope this dials down some of the nasty rhetoric that has been flying around on this board and opens up a discussion about the issues. I was very depressed there for a while because it has always seemed to me that as democrats, we have the moral high ground and do not resort to sexist, disgusting remarks; rather, we focus on issues and togetherness and helping each other. (I consoled myself by thinking that this was a direct result of Obama republicans whose diatribes, I assume, Obama would adamantly reject if he discovered).

No matter who wins the nomination, we need to present a united front. We are at war. The economy is in the toilet. The world no longer respects us. Women and children are living in third world conditions in our own back yard. These are the social issues democrats historically have taken head-on. Let's start working together on this thing.
You guys lost the high ground....
by gringo_911

when you fought the GOP during the Civil War. Sorry to bust your bubble.

As for the rest, the DNC main goal is to increase the number of people dependent on the government handouts. Do you think this is moral?

Re: You guys lost the high ground....
by spackle

Oh yeah, well YOU guys lost the high ground after the Teapot Dome scandal!

Seriously - does anyone really vote based on what happened in 1860? That's hilarious.

you lost your high ground when you defended slavery...
by gringo_911
Granted, a lot of people in US don't know this.
Re: you lost your high ground when you defended slavery...
by ArCoog

The problem I have with republicans like gringo_duh is that the talking points they use "Democrats are for government handouts" flies against the wind because NO ONE has given MORE government handouts than BUsh and his republican administration.

Of course their handouts have been to the rich and the wealthy. We as democrats prefer that the helping hand go to those less fortunate than us. It's the Christian thing to do.

Re: you lost your high ground when you defended slavery...
by nerdnam

Actually in the Civil War there were Northern Democrats and Southern Democrats. And Lincoln ran in 1864 on a Union ticket combining both Republicans and Democrats. So it wasn't a war between the parties, it was a war between the states.

Furthermore, Democrats have probably gotten more people out of poverty than Republicans have. Under Bill Clinton, for instance, middle class wages went up. Under George Bush and Ronald Reagan as well, wages declined.

As Harry Truman said, if you want to live like a Republican, then you should vote like a Democrat.

Moral vs. Moral
by Arlington
Sure it's moral. Well, as morally justifiable as anything any of the political parties do. The GOP intends to increase the number of its welfare recipients, too. The difference is, Republican welfare is costlier than Democratic welfare.
Re: I'm glad it's a contest
by SGriffeth

"...you can't trust the polls, not even exit polls."

To be fair, one should not confuse pre-election polls with exit polls.

Despite the disagreements between exit polls and the election results in some recent high-profile elections, exit polls remain a valuable independent check of vote tallies. We should be on the press to do a better job exit-polling, not demand that they quit doing it altogether, or that the results be ignored.

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