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Re Applebaum essay
by DeaconT
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Great essay-I remember my dad in North Carolina in 1960 with a JFK bumper sticker on his old jalopy. He dreamed of better things, a brighter future for his family. It was a bold statement in that era, in that place. I support Obama today in the land of SUV's and soccer moms. Yet, I also dream of better things, a better future for my family and fellow citizens.
Re: Re Applebaum essay
by blueskies
Why was supporting JFK in 1960 controversial in North Carolina? Because he was Catholic?
Re: Re Applebaum essay
by DeaconT

I was six at the time but I know that my dad used to say that he had the only JFK bumper sticker in our small town. The feeling I got from him in my later years was that it was controversial because Kennedy was Catholic, young and appeared much more liberal than Nixon. Plus, Kennedy's accent reminded people of Northerners. There was still a strong prejudice at the time against Yankees.

Re: Re Applebaum essay
by mohe

JFK's Catholicism was controversial all over the South, among other places, that is why his victory in the West Virginia primary was so signifigant, until he won there even many prominent Catholic politicians such as Pat Brown, the very catholic governor of California, would not support him because they were almost certain a catholic could not be elected President. When Kennedy won WV they all came around with great enthusiasm.

The similarity between this and the number of black leaders today who seem chary of Obama for almost identical reasons is quite striking.

Re: Re Applebaum essay
by bsharporflat

Hm..I think you are reading US African Americans completely wrong. They aren't behind him (yet?) because he doesn't appear to represent them, culturally.

Why do you think African Americans didn't support Alan Keyes? Why do you think they did support Jesse Jackson? Both black. Neither had a chance to win. But one was culturally black.

The notion that Bill Clinton is really a black man is taken a lot more seriously in the black community than you might think and Hillary continues to benefit from this.

Re: Re Applebaum essay
by fsilber
mohe:

JFK's Catholicism was controversial all over the South, among other places, that is why his victory in the West Virginia primary was so signifigant, until he won there even many prominent Catholic politicians such as Pat Brown, the very catholic governor of California, would not support him because they were almost certain a catholic could not be elected President. When Kennedy won WV they all came around with great enthusiasm.

The similarity between this and the number of black leaders today who seem chary of Obama for almost identical reasons is quite striking.

You have to remember that throughout the 1800s the Catholic Church opposed democracy and religious freedom. The Church taught that it was every Catholic's duty to work to establish Roman Catholocism as the official state religion and to support Catholic kings who could impose Catholic policies.

We no longer care about Catholic politicians because today's Pope doesn't preach this, and even if he did, most Catholics would not pursue it any moreso than they obey his dictates on birth control.

But it was not always like this. (Even JFK's father and brother had enough obedience to refrain from using birth control; it was not obvious where they would draw the line.)

Re: Re Applebaum essay
by mohe
Ohh yes and your anti Popery is exactly how different from fear of a black president?
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