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Welcome to the Grand Guignol
by apollonius...

The only question to be asked is, “Are the American people as stupid as they have shown themselves to be in recent times?” What have we here? Five little motorboats appear- or so we’ve been told- to have threatened 3 United States Navy warships. I’m waiting to hear about another related but under-reported event which involved a handful of Iranian schoolboys throwing rocks at a Navy submarine. This event seems to have resulted in the submarine coming within minutes of launching a Tomahawk missile at the boys. The ship’s commander, who remains anonymous as does everyone reporting on everything concerning all of these incidents, said that the crew of the submarine felt gravely threatened by the boys and that several of them had to receive onboard counseling.

I’ve seen a lot of transparent bullshit these last few years but now it’s gotten to the point of their saying anything, no matter how comical, ridiculous or absurd. I guess the Edmond’s thing is rattling a lot of cages.

I’m going to state unequivocally that no Iranian motorboats threatened any U.S. Navy ships. It’s possible that the main shit stirrers in the Middle East (Israel), with the cooperation of the U.S. Navy, staged a kindergarten stunt in preparation for a coming false flag operation.

Israel is hopping mad about the NIE report which stated that Iran stopped their nuclear weapon program in 2003. They are seething, foaming at the mouth and, with no other outlet available at present, have increased their genocidal assault on the Palestinians in Gaza to let off steam. They want blood and they are determined to get it. Israel is like a petulant child that has never been denied anything from the senile Sugar Daddy whose ass she owns.

It’s no accident that President Dipshit is crawling on his belly to Israel to plot out how it’s all going to go down. Last time Dipshit headed that way bad things happened and we can expect more of the same this time.

I was told by someone that The U.S. would never bomb Iran, not with the recent geo-political shift. I wouldn’t bank on that or anything. We’re dealing with driven psychopaths here. Keep in mind that they planned to go after Iraq before Bush even entered the Oval Office. Keep in mind that Iran has been the target all along and that Afghanistan and Iraq were mere precursors. Do you really think the sort of reptiles presently running American policy are going to settle for coming so close to their goal and just fade away? One way or another… pilgrim.

I realize it is hard to imagine the kind of thinking that would go after Iran with Russia as their ally but, once again, we are dealing with madmen. The neo-cons in power in Israel and its military arm, The United States, are clinically insane. They bear no resemblance to normal human beings and they don’t consider you to even be one.

You have to understand that this is their last shot. This year is all they got; for awhile. They have to readjust their tactics after ‘the new boss’, comes in. You have to remember too that an enormous amount of work has gone into all of the legal changes such as the suspension of Posse Comitatus and the other legal tactics designed for crowd control at home. This isn’t all an accident. Don’t you ever wonder to yourself why so much of this has happened with no clear justification? There has to be a reason.

This administration with the assistance (and possibly at the behest of) Israel with 'a tip of the hat' to London launched an attack against their own country. Let the reality of that sink in. Did you think there was nothing more to it than just to snatch a portion of the world’s oil? Keep in mind that things like this are happening all the time <link> and that we are on the verge of tremendous breakthroughs in technology that will reshape the world in coming years. There’s more to it than oil.

How big of a moron do you have to be to believe that Iran, which just had a major PR boost from the NIE report, would harass Navy warships with small motor craft? When dealing with psychopathic lying sacks of shit always look for the point of the action.

Have you heard anything from Iran? Shouldn’t someone have asked Iran what was going on? Why isn’t there any word from Iran? A person of a certain amount of intelligence would see this as a news blackout. It’s a frame job and Israel is behind it as they have been behind so many dark things in recent times. It is very interesting to find that Sibel Edmonds says that Turkey has been deep into the same dung heap of activity as Israel. When you add to this the fact that Ashkenazi’s originate out of Turkey it suddenly makes certain things clear. I suggest that everyone read what Sibel Edmond’s has to say. Read this <link>

A major crime organization is operating throughout the world and using a manufactured threat of terrorism to steal your freedom and security. Meanwhile they are trafficking in every illegal and immoral activity that there is. This is a fact. You don’t want to recognize this, that’s your problem.

The real problem is that it’s not over. The real problem is that they are not done. I wonder how many of you actually read the PNAC paper.

This just in <link> as I said… bullshit. Trust in Michael Rivero to get the details ASAP.

As I have been saying for some time, this year is going to be one of the most interesting periods of time you have ever seen. Many things could still go either way. I don’t believe in a fixed fate. There are a lot of things that are in our hands. One of the most important duties that the citizens of any Democratic country have it to speak up when wrong is being done in their name.

Judgment when it comes comes within our conscience. We are our own judge and jury for what we did and did not do. It’s built into the dynamics of life itself. Sins of omission are not necessarily less egregious than sins of commission.

I am heartened to see some of the things that are happening right now. I really do think some portion of the world is waking up. For some, their sleep is too deep to be affected by anything less than death itself. That may not even be enough. For some, their motivations are so wrong that no amount of reasoning is going to influence them.

It’s time for the right people to stand before the court. It’s time for the right people to find themselves behind bars. I have no hope that they will come to any epiphany over it. There people extinguished the small light of their humanity long ago. The purgation necessary to bring them to realization would mean the end of everything that they are. That wouldn’t be a bad thing. Keep your eyes open.

Something Good

Here's my question....
by LaurieAnnM

and I'd be very interested in your answer..then..why The frick, don't we go after Pakistan, since we know they are harboring, Bin Laden?!

You seem to know so much about the psychological dynamics of our evil intents to destroy the planet(not sure I agree with all you write, at all)........however...

What IS your THEORY on that one?

With all due respect...

Please let me know why?

Re: Here's my question....
by apollonius...

First off, Bin Laden has been dead for years. That was reported by Israel and Pakistan several years ago but no one paid any attention.

I'd read the link about Subel Edmonds were I you. Were I you I might check into who she is and the degree of credibility that she has and the things she is sayin.

Re: Here's my question....
by LaurieAnnM

I don't believe that. However, don't get me wrong...I liked much of your post..I feel very comapssionate about Palestine,too. and some of the other stuff is so good, too.

But, don't agree about Bin Laden.

sorry about the tone of my first post to you..I ,am just frustrated and angry about so many of the things going on Internationally.

It isn't about you,

Mea culpa, for my tone, appy.

Re: Here's my question....
by apollonius...

not a problem. many people are stressed these days and my position of late is that anyone can say anything they like to me. It's not my affair what people think.

However, if Bin Laden were still alive I don't see why they continue to use the same dummy that has long been proven not to be Bin Laden as Bin Laden. I don't think you realize what these people are up to but that's not a criticism. Sooner or later the truth will come out. I'm certain he's dead and, as I said, it's been reported in many places over the last several years.

Re: Here's my question....
by apollonius...

Here <link>

do some browsing when you get a chance.

Re: Here's my question....
by LaurieAnnM

thx. I will.

So much is so complicated with it all that it can make my head spin. but, I try.

;-)

Re: Welcome to the Grand Guignol
by justoffal
It didn't make any sense to me when I read it...I just don't see what they have to gain by what was done. The description of small ,fast boats racing in and out of a massive naval contingent just sounds too rediculous to be true. There is no way they would have come as close as 200 yards and stayed floating...that much I am sure of.
Re: Welcome to the Grand Guignol
by apollonius...

at www.whatreallyhappened.com they've got a lot of new updates now. Remember that this is happening in consonance with Dipshit's visit to Israel and the primaries are going down; meanwhile the ticker is counting on various levels and they seem to like to go to war in the early part of the year. Much of what is happening is to insure a progression of power remaining in the same hands. Were it to slip into other hands too much would be revealed.

Not to worry... everything works out.

The Times Online...
by DreamBird

Here is the TIMES ONLINE link in which there is the "hint" of more scandalicious stuff.

But of course, 3000 dead in the WTC towers isn't going to hold back those who are the blood-drinkers, will it?

TIMES ONLINE

More tidbits found in the TIMES ONLINE:

For MUCH more on the Sibel story (including all the names named, as the Times should have, and much more) please see:
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We have been covering her story for some time, in lieu of the corporate mainstream media doing so, even after legendary whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg declared Edmond's story to be "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers"

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Well...now we can understand why Hillary Clinton's "tears" and a choked up voice seemed to have honesty in it...

Re: Welcome to the Grand Guignol
by DreamBird

Remember that in the long view of happenings on this planet, there have been many different civilizations that have gone into oblivion and become extinct...and as you said, "everything works out" whether in the short term or the long term.

But one has to see that the real courage of these individuals can only serve to make known to the rest of the world, outside those who are participating in treasonous activities, that the US is certainly not the best of the best, compadre!

Oh well...I prefer to indulge in reading Samantabhadra and preparing for my eventual disappearance from this earth. When? Who knows? Only the Buddha knows :)

heh heh heh....as JO would say ! :)

Re: Welcome to the Grand Guignol
by Cherokee56

Great Stuff Ap: Would like to borrow it to post to another Fray site where the Neo-cons are falling like flys.

Can we say Gulf of Tonkin Redux?

Cherokee

Re: I fault our Navy...
by RainMan

for not blowing them out of the water...just on general principles.

Democrats have turned this country into a nation of pussies.

Jack

Re: I fault our Navy...
by LaurieAnnM

Yeah, Those kids throwing rocks will one day grow up and just as soon launch nukes when they get them. That's what people forget.

But, what can we do?

Blow them all up, carte blanche?

That's impossible.

Diplomacy?

With these Al Queda fanatics?

That's like trying to talk a drooling, crazed ,sociopathic thief with a gun out of robbing you of your jewelry.

It isn't going work.

Yeah, we should do right where we are wrong where we can..but America has given aid and done much good all over the world.

Palestine hates us because of our Isreali Policies..but, nothing we have done equates to or justifies the rabid, rank fanatism of the Al Quada sect.

Just recall Nick Berg's head held aloft by Al Queda and remember the nuts who drove those planes into those buildings in NY...should tell anyone that much.

But, you are correct it's the "Happy Talkers" on the left, preaching how bad America is, that will insure that most Americans vote on the right.

Because most Americans, even most democrats, know we face serious threats from Islamo-facists.

Re: Welcome to the Grand Guignol
by justoffal
The history channel aired a counter conspiracy piece on 9/11.. what a crock of bullshit! They had their hand picked experts lined up to refute... they presented alternative explainations to many of the things seen on 9/11 but stayed away from so many of the unanswerables. Somebody is desperate to hide the truth.
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