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The difficulty of living in Boston
by Franz Ferdinand
I am from Pittsburgh but go to college in Boston. I cannot describe how difficult it is to have to sit through a Red Sox World Series and now a Patriots history making undefeated season, not to mention the records set by Randy Moss and Tom Brady. One of the difficult parts is dealing with the fans of Red Sox nation- one night we were sitting in our room watching the Sox while my roommate tried to explain to me how the Red Sox were America's team, and how they were about everything good that America stood for. Despite all of my arguments, he (and my other Red Sox fan roommates) were unconvinced. Once the Red Sox got the Series out of the way as quickly as possible, it was the Patriots turn for domination. All throughout the season I kept trying to come up with excuses for the Patriot's destruction of the lesser NFL teams (read: all of them). But no matter what I would say, no matter what predictions I would make come Sunday, the Patriots would steamroll the opposition.

I chose to go to Boston voluntarily, but little did I know how insufferable the city's fans could be. You can call me bitter that my favorite sports franchises aren't as successful as the Pats or the Sox, and this would be true. The hardest part of this is having to recognize how good the Patriots really are.
Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by moloko5

These days there is nothing worse than a Boston sports fan. They combine a New York sense of entitlement with a Midwest fanatacism. Here's hoping the Colts, Chargers or Jaguars defeat them in the AFC championship game. 17-1. Now, I like the sound of that.

I do agree about how annoying the '72 Dolphins are. The fact is that NFL talent has improved so much that the '07 Dolphins could probably beat them. I just dislike the Patriots and their fans that much more.

Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by FrayMatter

To Boston fans, you can also add the chip of victimhood on their shoulder that they haven't quite shed from the red Sox Curse days. On display here.

Yeah, the 72 Dolphins went from a proud brotherhood to bad sports in record time.

Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by cch108
There are millions of Boston/New England fans. How many do you know? You'd have to know tens of thousands to even know 1%, which would be an insignificant sampling. Your generalizing about a group of fans, or any group of people, demonstrates your ignorance and bigotry.
Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by vrahorn

My father trained me to despise all Boston teams because of his experiences when he also lived there for awhile. It wasn't the lack of class amongst the coaches, teams or even fans that turned him off. You see, my family is Hispanic (Mexican-American) and my father was living in Boston as a member of the US Air Force. He has said, ever since that time, that he has never seen such rampant prejudice and bigotry. It was worse than when he was stationed in the southern US.

Now that I am older and being a modern American woman, I decided a few years ago to form my own opinion. Unfortunately, no one in Boston has shown me that they (teams, coaches, fans) have elevated themselves in any way. They still have no class.

Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by vrahorn

That chip of victimhood is only on their shoulder because they continue to pick it up and place it back there. How can they continue to see themselves as victims when their teams have won the World Series and the Super Bowl (repeatedly) in the last few years?

That chip of victimhood must surely belong to Cleveland Brown fans by now. (No offense intended.)

Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by cch108
Well, then, I guess you have an excuse for being a bigot - you're father trained you to be one. Nice job, Dad.
Yea, that would be infuriating.
by macrol
Give me the Steelers and Pittsburgh any day ! The greatest NFL organization of all time.
Re: Yea, that would be infuriating.
by tjcerveza

The Red Sox and Patriots are fine organizations who deserve the recognition they are currently receiving. Accomplishments on the field is what matters, and this decade both of these teams are accomplishing plenty.

Their fans on the other hand, well that's another story. If you ever check the postings on internet Sports pages or are unfortunate enough to be around some of these arrogant jack-asses, you will know why Boston is quickly getting a very bad name around the country. The racist crap that spouts from these neanderthals gives creedance to many of the stereotypes you hear about Boston residents. They were always known as poor losers, but know they are becoming known as poor winners.

America's Team. That's a joke. The Red Sox are becoming the Yankee Juniors. For years they bemoaned the Yankee payroll, and how they always bought Championships. Now that they are copying the Yankee strategy, dollar for dollar, their fans act like they are the second coming. It's the money, stupid. Like the Yankees, you are begining to see fans around the country rooting for anyone other than the Red Sox. They have become the Evil Empire's mini-me. Twice the arrogance but only a third of the Championships.

The Pats on the other hand, are operating in the parity consious NFL, so you have to give them credit. But I'll still root for any team playing them.

Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by badgolf36
Hm, I lack Midwestern fanatacism, but I do have a Garrison Keillor-ish sense of small town ennui with a hint of bitter hops. Wait, that's my beer: Lake Woe-brau-gon. Anyway, we're only seeing a small portion of the Boston haters' comments over their lifetime. Thus, we can't generalize about the holders of said views being idiots and bigots; they might be wicked 'smaht' the rest of the time. As yet another alternative, maybe we MegaMall Machiavellis simply enjoy the fine sport of Bostonian Baiting - provoking that hairtrigger sense of moral outrage is always in season.
Re: The difficulty of living in Boston
by Dirk Gently
I have to concur with the overall thread here: while the Pats' record is an astounding, historic achievement, it couldn't have happened to a less deserving bunch of sports fans of late. Boston-area sports fans are dreadful--not because of arrogance, or racism, or pride in their team, as these are all found in abundance in other fans. It's because their insistence on thinking that (1) everyone's really rooting for them; (2) the constant mythologizing about how "hahd" it is to be a fan of teams who have been winning consistent championships now after years of futility; (3) how because of those two things, every championship they get is something they "deserve" as fans, the implication being that other fans don't deserve this. And of course by pointing any of these things out, you're just hating on them, right? It's appalling. Perhaps years from now all of us who aren't Boston-area sports fans will delight in an improbable perfect season Super Bowl run made by the Browns, Cards, Bengals, Rams, or Bills. Now THAT I could get behind.
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