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My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by Hermes
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Freedom of association on BB, and the "ignore, or not to ignore" thingy, is all about setting a clear line of demarcation between those who want to come here to post things like "Is it possible "our" Captain Howdy is the child molester this news story refers too", and those who want to discuss ONLY the issues, and not to have the page pushed by the aforementioned unnecessary childish BS, or by a collection of repetitive posts, like with the dems' poll numbers for example, or Fred Phelps.

Of course it's no coincidence that those that object to all of this, are the very same ones engaging in the conduct objected too. What is particularly amusing and telling about all this is, is that these very same people already engage in similar conduct themselves, given the number of posts that indict the things they've long supported, go unresponded to by them. Just look down this page for validation of that-- if they aren't all gone by the time I post this.

It's all about noise-making, avoiding any substantive debate, and trying to control the dialogue with BS---- like those on the "right" side of the facts, or who hold the most easily argued and defended povs, need to resort to such.

Of course they don't, but the need of the noise-makers is clear-- avoid what you can't defend, and push it off the page as soon as possible, so that they aren't reminded of that inarguable fact.

There's a reason why a chess grandmaster can beat 40-50 other so-called players simultaneously (even blindfolded sometimes) --- it's because "X" times zero, no matter the magnitude of "X", still equals zero. The same is true here.

AT the end of the day, when all you have is an hour or two of Fox News, or the reading of such sites as drudge or newsmax, you are going to be hopelessly outgunned, and unarmed for all practical purposes.

This is really the bottom line of the problem under discussion here--- the at the least, subliminal awareness that they really have no business in the "debate" to begin with.

Afterall, their party and their tearless leader have been exposed as the total failures that they are, so the debate/game is already lost--- which is why they want a license, to play all the other games their limited minds can conjure up.

They aren't even bright enough by and large to understand that the dem polls number they've posted dozens of times in recent days, is every bit as much a repudiation of what they have supported, as it is the dems leadership.

If they aren't smart enough to figure that out after all of this time, then they aren't smart enough to invest much text in here. It takes a collection of real geniuses to advertize and constantly repost, a repudiation of "their" policy.

SO it seems to me that most of them should be ignored, on the basis of brainlessness alone, all the other BS notwithstanding-- if competitive debate is your goal. As we all learned from the "was Plame covert" issue alone-- even when the facts are incontrovrtible, many of them will insist otherwise.

SO in many ways, I guess it all depends upon how much beating of your head against the proverbial wall you are willing to endure, just to have a discussion or "debate" with those that lack the required skill set, and knowledge of the subject at hand. In my experiences here, most of them have huge deficits in both departments, which is why they resort to the posting habits being objected to.

I applaud all those who are coming to the realization that with many, this is entirely the case, and who choose to ignore the worst offenders, who correspond to and are,the most inept, and intellectually dishonest and unarmed p[osters here.

It is after all, hardly and ego builder, to beat a paraplegic or quagraplegic, in a foot race.

Re: My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by AnneMarie3x3
I, personally intend to do my best to let them dry up and blow away in a hot wind, unnoticed.
Re: My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by Jen01

I agree with you, Hermes, when you say "Of course it's no coincidence that those that object to all of this, are the very same ones engaging in the conduct objected too. "

I've noticed that several people come on here and object to the very things that they themselves are guilty of doing.

It's okay............ I just take whatever is on the page when I sit down to read and respond where I want to. I don't really care who posts what. I just respond if it is interesting enough that I have a comment. Occasionally I even have something to say that I deem worthy of a top post.

Sometimes there is good debate, other times there is not. Today there really hasn't been, but it just might be my own mood that makes it seem so.

Best Regards,
Jen

Hmph, I doubt it, however
by GusMcrae
as they say, "Ignorance is Bliss".
Agree it's the only solution, Hermes
by ann---

And the features of the New Fray help to make that possible. The chum/spam/chat posters are easier to deal with now.

I'm thinking it's painful for fraycons to continually try to defend the policies of this administration. The upcoming election should bring some good debate on the qualifications, or lack thereof, and foibles of the candidates.

Not all fraycons fall into the 'ignore' category, it just takes time to weed out the ones we choose to read. Thanks.

I am hoping, ann, for some good
by Jen01

discussions on the qualifications and foibles of the candidates. I will no doubt be employing some of the good ideas you have put out here for the weeding out of posts/ posters that I don't want to address when it starts getting good.

Jen

Only the inferior...
by SocialDarwinian

waste so much time and space in top post pronouncement that others are inferior. The above wild-eyed rant was rather lengthy when it can summarily be distilled down to nihilistic self-congratulation.

Pathetic, really.

Re: My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by Hermes

good for you AM-- I've long followed the same rules here that I use in my "real" world---and would no more engage a person in "debate" out here like those under discussion, than I would here.

Re: My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by Hermes

I think alot of this issue, and how important it is to you, is entirely dependent upon your motives for coming here.

Those who have been expressing this pov, are clearly motivated by an interest in the competition of debate, or discussing political issues, that the objected too behaviors tend to either impede, or eliminate entirely.

It is really about wanting to use this board solely for what it was designed and intended to be used for-- not that this need preclude some socializing.

Re: Agree it's the only solution, Hermes
by Hermes
I think you're right about that ann-- defending the indefensible is "hard work"..
Only the inferior...
by Hermes

enters into a discussion they are likely completely ignorant of all the factors in, and makes a judgement, thinking it an educated one.

This of course explains why your BS was confined pretty much to the messenger, rather than any discernable effort to deconstruct or rebut the message or it's contents, other than by way of use of the very BS it addressed.

Apparently you are oblivious to the fact that it was really just a lengthy description of you-- just another one to ignore no doubt.

thanks

Re: My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by Sonnaille
The key to Slate enjoyment is held in the clicking finger. To ignore what bores or disturbs is bliss. Garbage posters are consistant so it makes the work easy for the selective finger. ;)
Re: My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by Hermes

I started practicing what I currently preach a very long time ago mary.

Of course it is exactly the choice you cite--I have no argument/s with that.

The entire point of this effort is to instill that in others, by providing good reasons for doing so, both for the individual making the choice, and potentially for this board itself, should enough engage in a boycott of those whose primary interest here, is far removed from the betterment of it.

Re: My final word on the "ignore" thingy
by Sonnaille
We've talked about it before and I am in complete agreement with anything that elevates enjoyment and quality (including the block feature.) For me and you and many others the personal clicking-finger retraining works so I suspect we are all getting better at it. It is a public service to share that with posters who may not have thought about it in the chaos they may hate. That alone should elevate Slate on a personal level. I'm with you on this.
I read your self-indulgent
by SocialDarwinian

top-posted wrist-flailing for precisely what it was/is - some sort of deranged cry for attention. Top posting about the relative worthiness of top posts??? Surely you must be joking.

Any adults on this board?

There is no need for historical baselines when the issue is top posts addressing other top posts. It's foolish stuff.

You have fun with it, though - the forum is apparently cool with it.

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