water boarding would work on Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, and the rest of the hanky panky gang.....would they be willing to tell the truth about their agenda?
Their efforts thus far?

The 2000 and 2004 elections?

Could we find out if Cheney was a bona fide Wyoming resident or if he was actually a Texas resident (owned home and LIVED in Texas for years!), which would have much to do with 2000 election being either on the up and up, or a total (republican) sham.

Would Bush sing about his wire-tapping?

About his involvement in the leaking of Valerie Plame's name?

I guess if the administration thinks it's a good way to get information overseas, then it might be a 'good' way to get the truth out of the PNAC crowd.

How long would it take them to decide that water boarding is INDEED torture?

I'd say about one dunking ought to do it!

Representative for years. That should prove his bonifides. He paid taxes as a Wyoming resident. That too, should prove his bonifieds.

Lots of wealthy people maintain residences in multiple States. Ask Gore, ask Clinton (s), ask Kerry.

Okay...I will give him the Wyoming resiency status, even though Wyoming LAW says you MUST actually RESIDE in that state for a YEAR to 'earn' your residency status, which then entitles you to vote there. So already, he is in violation of THAT!

And to prove another violation, IF we 'give' him the Wyoming residency, how was he then able to receive the HUGE HOMESTEAD TAX refund on his home in Texas? Why because he WAS INDEED a resident of Texas, and had been for several years.

That right there shoots his Wyoming 'resident' claim square dab in the behind!

Now, you see why many of us dislike him and do not trust him any further than we could throw a bull by the tail? He has EARNED that reputation, and worse yet, carried it over into the office of the vice president.

to me Loree.

His next address should be a Federal Pen but that won't happen, either.

We could all chip in and buy his secretary the biggist microwave they make and throw in a case of Orville Redenbacher for the office. I wonder if that pacemaker has a kick start???

years. He obviously had residency status to run and be elected as a Wyoming Representative.

As a Federal employee, you are allowed to LIVE somewhere else, while maintaining your original State of Residence. I did so for a number of years as a Missouri resident while serving in the military. I never had 30 days consecutive "residency" in Missouri while serving, yet was a Missouri resident for all purposes.

You don't lose residency until you do something to take it away. Like voting in another State. Can't say if Texas Homesteading exemptions are similar or not. Probably not. I got a Georgia exemption for my house, while remaining a Missouri resident for a number of years.

But stop and think....his RESIDENCY is EXACTLY WHY we have all the problems that we have today.

That is the bottom line, and it should never have happened, except that Bush seems coated with Teflon....nothing 'sticks' to him, even when it's as obvious as the nose on one's face.

Berz...go back and READ my post AGAIN. Wyoming has residency laws BEFORE one can vote. The big one is you MUST BE A RESIDENT FOR A FULL YEAR in order to vote. Cheney WASN'T. He only set up that bogus residency claim in JULY of 2000...the election was in NOVEMBER of 2000. The ONLY reason he went to Wyoming and 'established' a residency there, was because the electorates from Texas were not going to be allowed to vote, since BOTH Bush and Cheney were from TEXAS!

FURTHERMORE, you don't get a $300,000 PLUS homestead tax payment, unless you are a resident of that state, and maintain your residency there...this time in the state of Texas. It's underhanded, corrupt, smelly, in violation of the law....but then, that is an apt description of the whole PNAC crowd, and as evidenced by the scandals that plague the republican party, it speaks well for ALL of them!

number of years. Far more than one year.

The Twelfth Amendment does not directly preclude the election of a President and Vice President from the same state, as is often alleged. Nevertheless, running mates conventionally come from different states to prevent situations wherein electors of the state in question are forced to vote for a candidate from a different party or state merely on the grounds of residency. The issue arose during the 2000 presidential election contested by George W. Bush (alongside running-mate Dick Cheney) and Al Gore (alongside Joe Lieberman). It was alleged that Cheney and Bush were both inhabitants of Texas, and that the Texas electors could therefore not cast their ballots for both. Bush's residency was unquestioned, as he was governor of Texas at the time. Cheney had lived and was registered to vote in Texas, but a few months before the election changed his official residency to Wyoming, the state where he had grown up, and for which he had, many years earlier, served as the U.S. Representative. A lawsuit alleging that Cheney remained an inhabitant of Texas was brought, but it was dismissed by the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas.

berzerker:

The Twelfth Amendment does not directly preclude the election of a President and Vice President from the same state, as is often alleged. Nevertheless, running mates conventionally come from different states to prevent situations wherein electors of the state in question are forced to vote for a candidate from a different party or state merely on the grounds of residency. The issue arose during the 2000 presidential election contested by George W. Bush (alongside running-mate Dick Cheney) and Al Gore (alongside Joe Lieberman). It was alleged that Cheney and Bush were both inhabitants of Texas, and that the Texas electors could therefore not cast their ballots for both. Bush's residency was unquestioned, as he was governor of Texas at the time. Cheney had lived and was registered to vote in Texas, but a few months before the election changed his official residency to Wyoming, the state where he had grown up, and for which he had, many years earlier, served as the U.S. Representative. A lawsuit alleging that Cheney remained an inhabitant of Texas was brought, but it was dismissed by the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas.

Amendment XII

"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

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Conflict of Interest applies in Texas as it does everywhere when it comes to who reperesents a state in case that has to do with interstate law. Plus, if Cheney changed his officialy residency to Wyoming, where was he changing it from?

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Apparently in Texas you can pay influence money to a judge, call it a contribution and everyone is good to go.

flawless everywhere else in the nation?

And if you don't trust the courts, the cops, the administration, etc...

then tell me again why you don't think people should have guns?

time the electors voted, Cheney was a resident of Wyoming.

There is NO requirement in the Constitution on HOW LONG, one must be a resident of a STATE. It can be ONE DAY.

The "residency" laws have to do with a minimum amount of time AS a resident to be entitled to VOTE in that State as a Resident. The DAY you change your residency...you ARE a resident.

Otherwise, how do you count up one year, oh genius one?

They SPECIFICALLY say you must be a resident for ONE YEAR to vote. Meaning...you are a resident the DAY you change your residency, you just don't have the right to vote from day one.

There is NO definition or qualification in the Constitution beyond that.

Which is why it was thrown out.

first you seem to condone torture and second you seem to think that it gets accurate information with relatively little time and effort.