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Neither Race or IQ Scientifically Valid
by curiousgemini
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Who said IQ was a true measure of intelligence anyway? It only measures a certain kind of mental ability. There is growing evidence that diet and environment can play a huge role in brain development. Also, differences in lifestyle can cause certain genetic traits to be expressed. Someone with poor nutrition, neglected and abused by parents, poor education and growing up in rough neighborhood just isn't likely to score high on most intelligence tests anyway.

Race itself is a vague generalization based more on cultural conditioning than on sound science.

How many races there are often depends of what country you’re in. In The US, we assume three races. In Brazil, it’s more than fifty. There also tends to be tremendous genetic variation within the "races".

White people have different eye colors, hair colors and body types. Some black people are light skinned or dark skinned. Asians from Japan look very different than Asians from Bali. Might they be defined as two different "races"? And who decides what constitutes a "race" anyway? And by what criteria?

Re: Neither Race or IQ Scientifically Valid
by mojomojo

Absolutely on point Cgemini. The Anglo-racial system is, in large part, the product of nineteenth century British Imperialism. Recognizing this, social scientists abandoned the use of race as a analaytical category. Race is nothing more than a social construct used to carry forward power relations. Some scientists, such as Steven Jay Gould, recognized this. Most geneticists, however, still operate under the early-twentieth century constraints of their discipline. It is time for them to enter the twentyfirst century.

Re: Neither Race or IQ Scientifically Valid
by hjvisalia
hear hear!
Re: Neither Race or IQ Scientifically Valid
by BJ&TheBear

In walks the science:

In one of the most extensive of these studies to date, considering 1,056 individuals from 52 human populations, with each individual genotyped for 377 autosomal microsatellite markers, we found that individuals could be partitioned into six main genetic clusters, five of which corresponded to Africa, Europe and the part of Asia south and west of the Himalayas, East Asia, Oceania, and the Americas

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Re: Neither Race or IQ Scientifically Valid
by gzuckier
BJ&TheBear:

In walks the science:

In one of the most extensive of these studies to date, considering 1,056 individuals from 52 human populations, with each individual genotyped for 377 autosomal microsatellite markers, we found that individuals could be partitioned into six main genetic clusters, five of which corresponded to Africa, Europe and the part of Asia south and west of the Himalayas, East Asia, Oceania, and the Americas

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And, having walked in, the science boldly announces an r-squared of.... 0.2.

As the synopsis says:

"They then show that allele frequency differences generally increase gradually with geographic distance. However, small discontinuities occur as geographic barriers are crossed, allowing clusters to be produced."

I.e., although there is wide variation among each geographic "race" there are "small discontinuities" from one to the next, which clustering software can detect.

From their prior publication, which they reference: "Within-population differences among individuals account for 93 to 95% of genetic variation; differences among major groups constitute only 3 to 5%." <link> (That's actual physical differences between all physical genes, total, including the obvious pigmentation, not differences in IQ) My editorial comment: Reminds me of those ads that try to sell you things that increase your gas mileage; it's always "up to 5%", i.e., big enough to be interesting, but too small to reliably detect without a scientific study like this.

(From fig. 6, summing up their best analysis; there's a linear relationship between genetic distance and geographical distance, so that every 5,000 miles adds about .01 to the genetic distance, no matter what the population (although some of the spreads are ten times that). No surprise. in addition to that, there's a jump of about .02 between Eurasia and East Asia, about .02 between Eurasia and Africa, and about .05 between East Asia and America (i.e. Native American) or Oceania. ) Again, what this boils down to: "Within-population differences among individuals account for 93 to 95% of genetic variation; differences among major groups constitute only 3 to 5%."

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