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The Author -vs- Al Gore -vs- The Slate
by Sharpchefjeff

The Slate has sank to a all time new low. Allowing the publishing of such one sided regurgitated stupidity is disturbing, if not disgusting. What cave did this author crawl out of? If the editor figures it out, let me know, I have a friend in the concrete business who would love to fill that hole.

On to Global Warming. When the number of humans on this planet was just a few million, I guess then you could have argued that we dont have an impact on the environment. Now at this time and age, there is no argument to be made. How can anyone deny that we as humans are polluting our world. Billions of people driving, hundreds of thousands of factories burning into the night, fossil fuel consumption, water pollution, soil pollution....come on!! How blind are we to turn away from our own destruction, that time will prove evidently irreversible if we don't start now.

I can't expect everyone to start riding their bikes to work, or using electric powered cars. I don't see the world suddenly changing to meet with the standards needed to decrease pollution. The idea here though is to spread the mind set, to acknowledge the facts, and the solutions. A heightened mind is a powerful tool. Introducing the facts is the right step in the right direction, but to argue about it seems foolish, and idiotic. How can this so called author sit there and try to pull the wool over the worlds eyes, and turn fact into fiction? There is too much humor in the article, and stupidity to allow myself to continue on this part of my post.

Al Gore deserved the Noble Peace Prize Award. If not for what he has done to bring the issue to light for the world, but for being more than a politician. He stepped out of the box of politics, and into the world humanity. I think he has done a great deal of good in both fields, but to look into his most recent endeavors, he has proved a great leader as a person, and a part of humanity. I don't look at the future as this author does, but rather I look into the eyes of my children, and wonder what their children's children have to look forward to. 400 years from now, what will this planet be like? I can't say, and I doubt we will have our future generations making millions on a daily basis, but our planet will not be any better.

I remember places as a young man, where I would go fishing, or camping 20 years ago, those places were flourishing habitats, but now....it's not anything like it was. Today these places are ghostly reminders of what they were before. Lakes are empty of fish, no animals, or wildlife. They have changed. Why? I cant put a finger on it. The population has boosted, humanity has grown, and natural environments are now streets, and homes. I have to wonder how much more of this world will be consumed by us before we all realize we are running ourselves into the ground. When that day comes, I know we will not tolerate this type of argument that the author has taken.

In closing, I have to say that when we reach the pinnacle point of realization into our planets demise, I hope for all our sakes it wont be too late. I hope that with what Al Gore has done, and others as well, we will open our eyes sooner then later, and start taking the steps to reverse these horrible circumstances we are going to face in the future. It is for the benefit of all mankind to wake up on time, and not sleep in past the dead line. I hope that most readers can see that the author here is still sound asleep, and when he finally awakes, he will regret ever putting such foolish words into print, and publication.

Re: The Author -vs- Al Gore -vs- The Slate
by devilstaircase
Polution and global warming are seperate issues. I dont believe anyone here supports poluting the environment. CO2 is not a polutant. It is a natural by-product from producing energy (e.g. You breathing).
Re: The Author -vs- Al Gore -vs- The Slate
by Sharpchefjeff

If C02 came directly from human breath, and no other source, I guess you might have a leg to stand on. C02 comes from many sources. Co2 is a natural gas, found in all forms of organic material, and natural resources. It comes from the ground, the water, and perhaps that beer can in your hand. The point is very simple. I think you need to look into the fact that Carbon Dioxide, and Carbon Monoxide are two similar gases, but one is very harmful, and the other can still kill you. While C02 is not harmful, you very well cannot live breathing it. The point I think you may have missed is I was speaking about Carbon Monoxide, but of course there is that slight chance I made a mistake.

Pollution can be in many forms. Pollution is the worlds number one problem as far as I am concerned. I understand that sometimes people can see things differently, so I hope we can at least agree to the fact that CO2 comes from you, and me, and also CARBON MONOXIDE comes from you and me as well in the form of pollution.

Thanks for addressing a mistake, maybe use spell check on me too. Maybe you might want to open your mind to the realm of understanding, not editing...

Pollution, and global warming are NOT separate issues?

How can anyone argue this? So...a factory in India burning coal and oil, and sending tons of pollution into the air, is not also part of the problem of Global Warming?

So to understand your stand point...3 billion cars burning fuel on a daily basis, sending more than just Carbon Monoxide into the air, has nothing at all to do with Global Warming, and Pollution?

So...if I understand you correctly, Global Warming is the cause of something other than the daily impact humans deal the planet with the release of air pollutants?

Landfills...which both contaminate the land, and water, but also create methane gas, and high levels of toxic run off that feeds into the Ocean, causing algae blooms, killing hundreds of thousands of fish, which also create methane gas as they decompose, also is a distinct separate issue in regards to Global Warming....

I would love to hear the version you seem to have as to the cause of Global Warming, and Pollution as separate identities?

Re: The Author -vs- Al Gore -vs- The Slate
by devilstaircase

"So...if I understand you correctly, Global Warming is the cause of something other than the daily impact humans deal the planet with the release of air pollutants?"

There is no conclusive evidence that global climate change is man-made. In fact there are scientists who think that this change is part of standard cycles the earth has been going through for millions of years.

"Landfills...which both contaminate the land, and water, but also create methane gas, and high levels of toxic run off that feeds into the Ocean, causing algae blooms, killing hundreds of thousands of fish, which also create methane gas as they decompose, also is a distinct separate issue in regards to Global Warming...."

It has not been proven that "green house" gases (e.g. cow farts) are the cause of global climate change.

Conclusion: It seems that you are arguing there is a link between "pollution" and global climate change. Since this has not been proven, you must assume it to be true. This is where your argument falls apart.

Re: The Author -vs- Al Gore -vs- The Slate
by Sharpchefjeff

"There is no conclusive evidence that global climate change is man-made. In fact there are scientists who think that this change is part of standard cycles the earth has been going through for millions of years."

When the amount of human life on this planet is at the level it is, and you honestly can sit there and try to say that Global Warming, and Pollution are not linked, and that the earth is going through some sort of scheduled cycle....I must be missing something.

Standard cycles? Millions of years? When did we become so intelligent that we can honestly say exactly what has occurred millions of years ago?

The earth is going through a cycle, a cycle that has happened before?

Listening to your choice of other than a few handfuls of scientists working under government grants who spoke that Global Warming is a normal occurrence, but not to the other scientists working under private, and civil grants which are saying the opposite? Who would you rather stake a claim of belief in, the small portions of media outlet graced scientists, or the large agreeing numbers, with a smaller voice?

The facts is, and no matter how you try to justify your arguments, we are the factor of global warming, and the underlining factor of pollution. Humans are the ones behind every issue our planet faces, and to ignore the facts is shameful, if not just plain old disturbing.

It is so strange that you are blaming the earth for what the earth is doing? Please listen to what you have said, and remember it is human nature to blame others, but in this case there is no other life form greater than human life to place blame on, so we turn to the earth for the reason.

If we were not at the top of every pyramid scheme from game predator, to intelligence thought, we might have someone else to blame, but unless a UFO made of pollutant gasses, and aliens made from refuse descend on earth and admit to pollution, and the earths global climate change, we have only one choice in the blame game. Human life.

To say that what the Earth is doing is a normal occurrence, is to ignore our irreversible foot print we leave behind as human beings, and to dissolve the problem with a simple throwing up of the hands, and start pointing to the one thing we have no control over? This is exactly what we can expect from ourselves when we have no honest solution.

I find it incredible, and unbelievable that you can not figure in the human equation in your thoughts. Billions of people, all over this world, burning, and trashing our planet on a daily basis, and you can not equate this simple fact of resolution. Instead you allow your thoughts to ponder a excuse that wipes away guilt of human fault?

Indeed......

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