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TORTURE & CONFIRMATION
by RICK POFFENROTH

FOR ALL OF AMERICA WHO HAVE FORGOTTEN VIETNAM (OR NEVER KNEW ANYTHING TO BEGIN WITH): WE FOUND THAT TORTURE DIDN'T GET YOU ANY REAL INFORMATION/INTELLIGENCE.

YOUR OPPONANT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR TO MAKE IT STOP. OH SURE, THEY'LL ALSO CONFESS TO ANYTHING YOU WANT THEM TO, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

SECONDLY, ASK THE FBI HOW THEY CONDUCT INTERROGATIONS AND THEIR SUCCESS. THEY BUILD A BOND WITH THEIR SUBJECT(S) - - - IT WORKS!

WE'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT THE CIA HAS GOTTEN FROM THEIR NEW FOUND "REVERSE" SERE/INTERROGATION TEQNIQUES, BUT I'LL BETCHA IT'S " FEEL GOOD ABOUT OURSELVES INFORMATION" THAT IS VIRTUALLY USELESS. IT PUMPS-UP THE BUDGET THOUGH.

AND NOW WE HAVE A POTENTIAL NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT CLAIMS HE NEEDS TO BE BRIEFED ON HOW WATER BOARDING WORKS BEFORE HE CAN ANSWER AN OVERSIGHT QUESTION ON WHETHER IT'S TORTURE OR NOT?

WE HAVEN'T JUST LOST OUR MORAL COMPASS; WE ASLO AREN'T DOING WHAT REALLY WORKS IN THE LONG RUN.

Re: TORTURE & CONFIRMATION
by the bull

So the Dems will use a SINGLE ISSUE not to confirm Mr. Mukasey...RIDICULOUS!! It's just a very lame excuse by this panel of esteemed scumbags.

Waterboarding, who gives shit?

Now if we were talking about cutting someones head off, in front of a video camera, and then sending that image out for the world to see, or nail gunning some Arab prick to the wall, and cutting his balls off, one at a time, and stuffing his cock in his mouth...OKAY I might care, but very little.

Getting information via torture, again...who gives a shit?

It's similar to the death penalty vs. life without parole. Killing the murderer will not bring back the person or persons he or she murdered, but killing the murderer would guarantee that he or she could never kill again.

So torturing a terrorist is fine with me, simply because the terrorist only understands terror, so lets give them what they understand.

Re: TORTURE & CONFIRMATION
by airjeff

Okay, let's say that Hillary gets elected. You hate her so much that you start spouting off about it on Fox News chat or some site like that. She then uses the "new and Improved" executive powers to intercept your email, lock you up without charge or trial down in Gitmo and waterboards you till you think you're gonna drown. Would you give a shit then?

Re: TORTURE & CONFIRMATION
by JGC

“So the Dems will use a SINGLE ISSUE not to confirm Mr. Mukasey...RIDICULOUS!!”

>>Not if that single issue provides an accurate indication of Mukasey’s larger legal perspective, (e.g., his position on unitary executive authority).

“It's just a very lame excuse by this panel of esteemed scumbags.”

>>How is rejecting Mukasey on the basis of his response re: the legality of US servicemen torturing prisoners embrace of an excuse, lame or not? They’d be rejecting him for identifiable cause.

“Waterboarding, who gives shit?”

>>Anyone who wishes the United States to remain a nation governed by rule of law, and anyone who is concerned with acquiring reliable and useful intelligence by interrogation..

“Now if we were talking about cutting someones head off, in front of a video camera, and then sending that image out for the world to see, or nail gunning some Arab prick to the wall, and cutting his balls off, one at a time, and stuffing his cock in his mouth...OKAY I might care, but very little.”

>>Have you sought professional help to address such marked sociopathic tendencies?

“Getting information via torture, again...who gives a shit?”

>>Again: Anyone who wishes the United States to remain a nation governed by rule of law, and anyone who is concerned with acquiring reliable and useful intelligence by interrogation.

“It's similar to the death penalty vs. life without parole. Killing the murderer will not bring back the person or persons he or she murdered, but killing the murderer would guarantee that he or she could never kill again.”

>>It isn’t similar, however. Capital punishment might be of utility in ensuring that convicted murderers will not kill again (although whether it would be of greater utility than life without parole remains open to debate.) Torture has been proven to be of less utility than other interrogative techniques in securing reliable intelligence: someone being tortured will tell the torturers whatever they want to hear, without regard for its accuracy.

“So torturing a terrorist is fine with me, simply because the terrorist only understands terror, so lets give them what they understand.”

>>What’s the basis for your presumption that terrorists only understand terror, or that standard interrogation techniques that don’t involve torture are insufficient to acquiring necessary intelligenct?

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