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These people are crazy
by tiponeill

And not in any good way. We need to stop pretending that it is only the "fundamentalists" and "extremeists" that are dangerous, and realize that even "moderate" believers in evil religions like Islam ( and yes, christianity too) are threats to peace and freedom.

Pakistan And Iran Furious Over Salman Rushdie Knighthood

Mohammed Ijaz ul-Haq, religious affairs minister, has gone so far as to say that awarding a knighthood to the author provided a justification for suicide attacks.

"The West is accusing Muslims of extremism and terrorism. If someone exploded a bomb on his body he would be right to do so unless the British government apologizes and withdraws the 'sir' title," ul-Haq said in parliament.

And this is different than Pat Robertson how?
by degsme
And this is different from Pat Robertson's approach how?
Re: And this is different than Pat Robertson how?
by tiponeill
Neveer said it was different - I was very clear that christians are dangerous nuts, also
Care to provide examples that
by B'liever_Cleaver
illustrate where a considerable number of Christians (in proportion to Islam) that avow homicide bombings?
Re: Care to provide examples that
by TwoWitnesses
B'liever_Cleaver:
illustrate where a considerable number of Christians (in proportion to Islam) that avow homicide bombings?
proportion isn't mitigation... Robertson all but called for the assasination of Hugo Chavez, and that type of attitude still exists among Christians.
Re: Care to provide examples that
by hitchchops
Homicide bombings may be a method of Islamic terrorists now, but one cannot discount the methods, and quantity of killing done in the name of Christianity historically. It is a fruitless endeavor to defend the bloody history of any religion, and pointless to attempt to label one as "better" than another. In specific regards to Chrisitanity, one would have to eliminate virtually all history pre-World War II to claim it guiltless. Even with that, regarding the use of condoms as sinful in Africa, as the Catholic church and missionaries do, it is easy to see that the death toll related to those who do "God's work" never ends.
Re: Care to provide examples that
by Nanotech

hitchchops:
Homicide bombings may be a method of Islamic terrorists now, but one cannot discount the methods, and quantity of killing done in the name of Christianity historically. It is a fruitless endeavor to defend the bloody history of any religion, and pointless to attempt to label one as "better" than another. In specific regards to Chrisitanity, one would have to eliminate virtually all history pre-World War II to claim it guiltless. Even with that, regarding the use of condoms as sinful in Africa, as the Catholic church and missionaries do, it is easy to see that the death toll related to those who do "God's work" never ends.

Yea buddy, you got to watch out for those Christian terrorist. Bombing all those innocent school children and demanding the execution of anyone and everyone who opposes them.

sheesss, get a life.

Re: Care to provide examples that
by Thomas Paine

B'liever_Cleaver:
illustrate where a considerable number of Christians (in proportion to Islam) that avow homicide bombings?

If one assumes (quite reasonably, IMHO) that to the victims and their family and friends, it makes fuck-all difference whether the bombs in question are carried by suicide bombers, planted along roads in Iraq, fired by rockets or dropped from aircraft.............I suggest that quite a few Christians DO avow such bombing!

Re: Care to provide examples that
by konark_girl

When you don't have open military power, you resort to suicide bombings. When you have the open military power, you stand on the world stage, thumb your nose at the United Nations, and march to war just because noone can stop you. And refuse to back down, and say you will march to war and bomb the bejesus out of any other country you see as 'a threat' too....so there!

Rabindranath tagore has a poem called 'A Question', where he describes two kind of evils as....(crudely translated):

'The lurking evil, that hides in treacherous shadows to strike at the innocent'

and

'The arrogant evil of the unopposed mighty, when justice quietly weeps in solitude.'

Re: Care to provide examples that
by Thomas Paine
Nanotech:
....Yea buddy, you got to watch out for those Christian terrorist. Bombing all those innocent school children and demanding the execution of anyone and everyone who opposes them.

sheesss, get a life.

Dunno about you, but I am old enough to clearly remember the events of September 15, 1963, to pick just one example.

Re: Care to provide examples that
by Nanotech

"I suggest that quite a few Christians DO avow such bombing!"

Got proof? I don't see it or hear it among the many Christians which I know.

How soon we forget
by bubbuh

True, they mostly weren't suicide bombings, just plain old ied's. But, The IRA enjoyed blowing up the English and the IOrange. The Orange endeavored to return the favor.The English tried to beat, imprion or shoot either side just so long as it was Irish. But, they did show a preference in unguarded moments for killing the sunny southerners.

For more on the topics of Christian bombings, look up the word petard and find where they were used.

Also, check out the Basque and FARC in Colombia. You don't have to Muslim to enjoy blowin' up your enemies, and that guy that cut you off on the interstate, Real Gu-u-u-d.

That said, Muslims do seem fixated on the idea at the moment. I wonder if it has to do with not being able to look at pictures. Maybe, the real lifesaving weapons are at our newstands: Playboy, Penthouse, Maxim, etc.

Re: Care to provide examples that
by Nanotech
Thomas Paine:
Nanotech:
....Yea buddy, you got to watch out for those Christian terrorist. Bombing all those innocent school children and demanding the execution of anyone and everyone who opposes them.

sheesss, get a life.

Dunno about you, but I am old enough to clearly remember the events of September 15, 1963, to pick just one example.

So you have to go back 44 years to pull a rabbit out of your hat? That settles it then, it must be wide spread within Christianity.

Re: Care to provide examples that
by Thomas Paine
I guess you could probably find some pretty good public opinion polls that might show significant percentages of self-identified born-again Christians voicing strong support for bombing the shit out of Iraq (and any other Islamic nation while we are at it),
Re: Care to provide examples that
by Nanotech

Thomas Paine:
I guess you could probably find some pretty good public opinion polls that might show significant percentages of self-identified born-again Christians voicing strong support for bombing the shit out of Iraq (and any other Islamic nation while we are at it),

LOL !!!!!

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