Religion is humans using mans word to work their way to God.

Christianity is God coming to men and women through a relationship with Jesus Christ through Gods Holy Word in the Bible.

40 authors over 1500 years and not 1 contridiction. The Bible does everything it promises and does not lie. Read "A Case for Christ" - Lee Strobel or "Evidence that demands a Verdict" - Josh McDowell.

Jesus even warns us of false teachers, false Christs, etc... even Catholicism is not Biblical. They follow agnostic books that contridict the Bible and do not have the authority of God's word.

And anything that denies Jesus is God is a cult - that includes the Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and Scientology. They all play for the same team - the one that tries to take the glory away from God - Jesus.

Everyone has a choice, but at least let it be an informed choice. Have a Blessed Day!

Wow... wow... I do not even know how to respond to this except that you just ruled out a lot of people based only on religious terms. I guess we'll all be hanging out playing cards with the Devil in Hell while you are in Heaven being as holy as you obviously are now.

Thank you so much for your simple, yet thoughful response to the article on scientology. It is not about religion, but about a relationship with God. Yes, there will be more people in Hell than in Heaven, but it won't be because God wanted it that way. It will be because people rejected what Christ did on the cross, not that anyone is "holier" than anyone else. The Bible is true, and if you would like to know more about what it means to be "born again," I would encourage you to read the book of John in the New Testament.

Nor is/are your proof(s) convincing.

"40 authors over 1500 years and not 1 contridiction. The Bible does everything it promises and does not lie. Read "A Case for Christ" - Lee Strobel or "Evidence that demands a Verdict" - Josh McDowell. "

I've read both the books you recommend, as well as read the "Bible", and I've discovered the following:

1. There are many contradictons in the Bible (both the Jewish and and the Christian testaments, and between the two); and

2. I have been presented with nothing by you, or by Strobel and McDowell that convinces me that the Bible "does everything it promises...." [That does raise the question, or questions: Just what is it that the Jewish and/or Christian Bibles promise?]

If anything, the Christian testament has done nothing it promised, formost of which is that Christ hasn't returned. [Even St. John the Divine, in Revelation, says that that the return will be "shortly".]

You have no proof of salvation; and only a hope that Christian prophecy will be fulfilled sometime in the future. Judaic prophecy, for what it is worth, says nothing about Christ (who does not fulfill even the Jewish vision of messiah or messianic purpose). In fact: each and every Christian analysis of the two testaments, concerning the return of Christ, put forward to date has been wrong.

I'm not saying that the Bible lies. I am saying however, that your "proof(s)" is/are not proof(s) at all.

And, maybe you ought to read the Jewish Testament as a complete work, not just words and phrases out of context; and also without the preconeption that it is about the coming of Jesus Christ. You might find that it tells a different story and encompasses a different theology than Christianity.

I agree with what truthnlove wrote regarding scientology article. The Lord teaches us all that the path of is like the shining sun, That shines ever brighter unto the perfect day. Prov4:18

The way of the wicked is like darkness; They do not know what makes them stumble Prov. 4:19

Christianity is much more than a religion. Anyone can say they are a religious person, or even say they are Christians. However, the Word teaches us that you can tell a true christian by the fruit it bares. In regards to CrabbyLisa, It's not about just appearing Holy. Because even Christians know they are not perfect. The bible teaches us that there is only one perfect being, and that is God. Furthermore, in Romans 3:23-24 it clearly states "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the REDEMPTION that is in Christ Jesus."

The article talked about fees and charges members have to pay just to advance (to what). Salvation is free because Jesus paid the price for ALL OF US, and all He asks is that we believe he died and rose again on the 3rd day, for us to repent of our sins, and ask Him to come into our hearts. There is no tricks, no magic, no fireworks nothing. All it takes is FAITH.

Christianity is not about being holy of holies or looking down on others. Christianity is about TRUTH and God is the Truth the Light and the Way. He wishes none to perish, but all to have eternal life. As a matter of fact we are to Love all no matter what race, religion, saved, lost, etc.

I just hope people would see the bigger picture about christianity. If salvation had a price then everyone would just purchase it without really understanding it. But because the price has already been paid by Jesus many seem to think it's not real. All it takes is Trust and Faith in One who will be known to all as THE LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS JESUS CHRIST.

I PRAY THAT THE LORD WILL TOUCH THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO SEEK HIM. HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AND BLESSED DAY.

Wow, You said a lot of things I agreed with, until you mentioned that Mormons don't believe "Jesus is God". This is interesting, because Jesus Christ is the Keystone of the LDS religion. Mormons absolutely believe in Jesus Christ, just to let you know, so you are no longer misinformed.

Actually, Catnap, the Doctrine of the LDS is that Jesus was a good prophet, and became a god but wasn't part of "Heavenly Father."

Thank you so much for a beautiful and well written response. It has been my prayer today that someone, somewhere reading these posts, whether sitting at home or at work, would take a moment and cry out to God to fill the void that is in all of us until we answer His call.

The Doctrine of the LDS is that Jesus is the son of "Heavenly Father" and he attoned and died on the cross for our sins. I have heard and read many times that Jesus is the cornerstone of the LDS religion.

""Evidence that demands a Verdict" - Josh McDowell."

McDowell is a wanker and some of his Jesus prophesies apply more closely to me than the late Rabbi, and a number of them apply to several, dozens, thousands, millions, or billions of people.

For our readers, any of the many accurate translations will render about half of McDowell's prophesies non-existent while the remaining ones are vague and most of them aren't even considered Messianic prophecy by the faith that wrote and whose king is anticipated.

As an example, I've killed snakes, Jesus is not known to have. Another example is that I am alive and on the earth, while Jesus died and is ascended to the same realm as Enoch is thought to be.

"40 authors over 1500 years and not 1 contridiction. The Bible does everything it promises and does not lie. Read "A Case for Christ"

Well lets start with the xtian faux demi-deity failed to meet the criteria for messiah.

Or the fact that there is no evidence outside of the creators and perpetuators for the xtian faux demi-deity cult, that an actual individual that could be attributed to the cause of the cult existed.

Informed choice means looking at ALL the facts not just the ones from with inside the myth.

cncgirl: The article talked about fees and charges members have to pay just to advance (to what). Salvation is free because Jesus paid the price for ALL OF US, and all He asks is that we believe he died and rose again on the 3rd day, for us to repent of our sins, and ask Him to come into our hearts. There is no tricks, no magic, no fireworks nothing. All it takes is FAITH.

Somebody is paying for all these big churches and all the preachers and the literature and all that. Are you saying Jesus is paying the bills for the church?

truthnlove: 40 authors over 1500 years and not 1 contridiction. The Bible does everything it promises and does not lie. Read "A Case for Christ" - Lee Strobel or "Evidence that demands a Verdict" - Josh McDowell.

Josh and Lee tend to get ahead of themselves at times. As of this writing, we still don't know the names of the writers of the four gospels, it seems quite clear that several people had input into the "books of Moses", aka the Torah, and most of the remaining books are either anonymous, or their authorship is questioned.

As for contradictions, the various writers don't even profess a common theology. Most writers in the Tanakh (old testament) don't teach an afterlife, don't teach heaven and hell (other than a vague reference in Daniel), and say very little about this vaunted "Messiah". In the New Testament, you see various opinions on what will happen in the afterlife, various depictions of the nature of Christ, and throughout all these books you find *gasp* contradictions, in the sense that one writer says one thing and another one says something completely different.

Perhaps Josh and Lee should re-examine their positions. But then again, why stop the milk from flowing from the cash cow?

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eljay:

Thank you so much for a beautiful and well written response. It has been my prayer today that someone, somewhere reading these posts, whether sitting at home or at work, would take a moment and cry out to God to fill the void that is in all of us until we answer His call.

I'm hearing a cry from several corners--a clarion call, if you will, but it's not what you might expect. Wait---it's coming through..

"Oh God, save us! Save us from your people!"

There. There it is! Did you hear that?

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