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Smart Democrats – for a change
by scout29c

Given the current speculation that Democrats will hold its majority in the House and with a good chance of taking the White House next year, it would behoove them to go along with the current administration as it continues to grab more and more power.

Just think: all that power Cheney has been working the last seven years to give the President will one day be in Hillary's hands.

Re: a change of color only...............
by volition

More of the same, for the same, by the same sullied hypocrites.

more and more deception

Re: Smart Democrats – for a change
by OneTokeUnder
Yeah. In a few years Chelsea will be in there, at which time the Clintons will be blaming their inability to give me healthcare on the Jamaican bobsled team.
If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, Dumbya and Cheney......
by DoctorTom

.... and guys like Tom DeLay and Larry Craig, you'd already have a healthcare program that actually worked.

Trying to blame the Clintons for this fiasco is just laughably ridiculous!

Smart and Democrat
by TexasPete
....are mutually exclusive terms!
Re: If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, Dumbya and Cheney......
by UPNYA2

Shit boy, compared to how Social Security is "worked" by our gubment, we DO already have a healthcare program that actually works!

Are you kiddin' me? Have you noticed anything different about SS now than when it was being sold to the folks of the US? Look into it, then get back to me with how we need to trust our health care to these people.

Re: If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, W, Delay and Cheney......
by TexasPete

I could care less about Craig but the rest are an all star winning line-up as far as I am concerned.

Newt - Engineered the Contract with America and forced much needed welfare reform.

Lott - Produced a historic budget and tax cut agreement that limited some federal spending.

W & Cheney - Has led Ameica in a war on terrorism in both Iraq and Afganistan, cut taxes for ALL Americans, Appointed 2 strict constructionist jurists to the Supreme Court restoring some much needed balance to that body, Produced the best economy America has had since the Reagan Years and did it without any help from House and Senate Democrats!

Delay - Hammered the opposition into submission on various important issues of the day while serving as house majority leader and house minority whip.

Re: If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, W, Delay and Cheney......
by esox

"W & Cheney - Has led Ameica in a war on terrorism in both Iraq and Afganistan, ..."

After 3,000+ Americans were killed on US soil. And Osma Bin Forgotten got away with murder.

"...cut taxes for ALL Americans,..."

Supporting both military actions on US treasury bonds sold to China, japan and Saudi Arabia. If we had to pay for this war today it would cost us an additional $7,800 per tax payer, on top of what you already pay.

"Appointed 2 strict constructionist jurists to the Supreme Court restoring some much needed balance to that body,"

It has been a Conservative body since 2000 when SCOTUS coronated King Geroge. get real...Bush appointed radicalized judges that are Conservative.

"Produced the best economy America has had since the Reagan Years and did it without any help from House and Senate Democrats!"

Please explain Sub-Prime lending and how that is affecting the current economy.

As well tell us all about offshoring, out sourcing, down sizing, and corporate malsfeasance.

Re: If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, W, Delay and Cheney......
by UPNYA2

Eusux, when this is all said and done, exactly what is your problem with Bush anyway?

All this shit you cry about, seriously, who do you think would have done what differently?

Like "After 3,000+ Americans were killed on US soil." You state that as if Bush somehow "allowed" this and you know of someone who would not. Do you? Is THAT whats up your ass? Please, elaborate, don't SPECULATE, hindsight is ALWAYS 20-20.

"And Osma Bin Forgotten got away with murder." Possibly, or we could still be after him AND fighting a war, whichever you feel promotes your personal opinions.

"...cut taxes for ALL Americans,..." He DID. Get over it.

"Supporting both military actions on US treasury bonds sold to China, japan and Saudi Arabia. If we had to pay for this war today it would cost us an additional $7,800 per tax payer, on top of what you already pay. " Unlike WHOM? Who is it YOU feel would fight a war without doing somet thing like this? Or, hell, for that matter, why just bitch about a war because you oppose it? Who do you know of who would operate our government strictly off what they took in? Its a BS "requirement" you do not have for ALL governmemt spending, nor for ALL politicians, why Bush and why just the war?

"It has been a Conservative body since 2000 when SCOTUS coronated King Geroge. get real...Bush appointed radicalized judges that are Conservative." HUH? Sheer, petty personal speculation on YOUR part, hoss, with NO basis in fact. ALL these people are nominated by whomever is the president, based on his opinion of them but they all also go through an approval process. ALL have. Also, the decision of the SCOTUS was going result in SOMEONE winning, when it happened to NOT be your boy, they sucked. Had it been your boy, you would be on here championing the way our system works as it is designed to do, so get over it.

The economy.

What is your problem with that? Do you exist less well than ever? How is anything bad affecting you? Is it? Or, in fact, is it just that "some" are affected negatively, "somewhere"? Personally, I think ANY president has very little to do that will actually control our economy. I also don't think our President can or should have much of an affect on where a business elects to locate, how big they must be or how many employees they must keep or what the limit should be on what they pay their employees, but if you want the government to control all that, I certainly see why you want them to provide everyone with food, shelter, cloths, vehicles, insurance, child care, retirement, medical coverage, paid leave, vacations, college educations, spa days (our mental health is as important as our physical, right)?

Re: If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, W, Delay and Cheney......
by esox

PUNY talking out your ass agian, careful there Bush Ace or you will wind up with trench mouth that way.

Let me start with I run my own business...I pay my fair share of taxes. And I therefore know better than most how government affects business. Labor Dept, IRS, INS and State govt's on another level from someone punching a clock 40 hrs/week.

I could go on about health care costs, document process costs, and audits but I won't go into the horrifying detail...but let it suffice to say that nothing Bush has done has reduced govt interference in my business...it has increased actually.

All the Federal tax cuts were just passed on through the state level.

Attending yearly confrences it is confimred that new sources of revenew are drying up due to the outsourcing and offshoring going on. Bush not taking care of US buisness needs on the trade level.

9/11 sparked Bush's interests in Terrorism, up unitl that point Bush was shutting that conversation down. Both with the Anti-Terrorist specialists, and the Clinton administration.

If Bush paid atteniton and followed up the USS Cole things would have been different.

SCOTUS has been a CON majority for the last 17 years...that is irrefutable. 5 to 4 right down the line on the most inflammatory of issues. I never addressed whom nominated nor whom apporved of them.

Osama Bin Forgotten was one job Bush HAD to do. He had kill that SON OF A BITCH even if Bush hod to take America to the gates of hell...and Bush didn't, and still dosen't.

As well this is my grind on Bush.

Re: If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, W, Delay and Cheney......
by UPNYA2

Got it.

But, come on, the USS Cole thing? Are you shittin' me? Bush didn't follow up on that? That is a hell of a streach even for a moonbat as left leaning as you, eusux. Damn.

Personal debt, marital problems, traffic jams........That damed 'ol Bush. Paperwork, lost business, employees leaving, customers not buying.............Yep, that evil assed Bush. State, sales or property taxes raise.............Bush.

NONE of this shit existed or rose before Bush and when he is gone, it will be all better. If we could get dems in there, we would all receive guift baskets twice a day, no one would need to work, birds would go back to singing, honey would flow in streams and money would rain down from the heavens......

Pretty much whatever is not deemed "good", "right" or fuckin' "fun" by you, is Bush's fault.

You DO amuse me with your shit boy, you really do.

Re: If it wasn't for Newt, Trent, W, Delay and Cheney......
by esox

USS Cole was bombed mid October 2000, Bush took office Jan 20 2001.

FBI concluded it was Osama Bin Forgotten's al-Qaeda March 2001.

2 months into Bush's administration...September 11 was only 6 months after the USS Cole.

If Bush took action against Osama Bin Forgotten we may have at least killed him before 9/11 canceling the WTC attack.

You live in a make believe world PUNY. Time to turn FOX noise off, take Drudge off you fav list, and tune Rush out...that CON poronography make you lose interest in objective fidelity of life.

Re: Smart Democrats – for a change
by Buckshot2
Smart Democrats! Where Where? I have not seen any.
Re: Smart Democrats – for a change
by esox

Blind & ignorat too? Damn thats a shame.

Hang in there the lights will becoming on in a year or so.

DEMS are treading water right now. Not much more they can do.

The likes of Rush are trying to provoke the DEMS into doing something rash that they can capitolize on...but Reid & Pelosi are too smart for that.

Therefore Smart Democrats....I prefer new and improved myself.

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