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This is Moveon.org...
by TickleBob

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This is the sickness of George Sorros.

Though I believe it's also espoused by Michael and a few others on this forum.

Re: This is Moveon.org...
by Arkady
To build the tallest possible tower, the common language that has to be shared by all the builders isn't Esperanto, it's math. Math is the universal language, and our greater facility with it is the major reason that every single day there are buildings going up that put to shame even the greatest towers ever built in Biblical times.
Re: This is Moveon.org...
by TickleBob

The tower is something biblical and not what my comment to "Michael" was about. It's Sorro's univerals Man Concept. I believe from reading your "babble" for years that you are equally as arrogant in front of God.

Re: This is Moveon.org...
by Arkady
What was your handle before you changed it to TickleBob?
Re: This is Moveon.org...
by Lapcat

k doesn't believe in God. Most of the lefties have that in common with him.

Re: This is Moveon.org...
by Arkady
I've met few atheists on the left or the right. The thought that an invisible man in the sky is watching over us is an inherently comforting thought, for most people, so you won't find many people who will be honest enough to acknowledge they have no evidence for believing in such a being. Even here on the Fray, how many lefties would classify themselves as atheists? I know that differnetEllen is a Christian. I believe Okie is, too. MaryAnne is against organized religion, but believes in God. Do you really think "most of the lefties" don't believe in God?
Re: This is Moveon.org...
by Okie

I think Lapcat believes less in God than she does in Ronald Reagan. She uses her religion as a weapon against her political enemies. Hardly the way Jesus envisioned his philosophy being executed.

Yes, I am a Christian. Methodist to be more specific.

Re: This is Moveon.org...
by Arkady
If I had to guess, I'd wager there are more atheists among left-wingers than right-wingers, but that it's a tiny minority in each group. That's especially true among major politicians. Out of all the members of Congress, I believe there's only a single one who is an "out" atheist. That's less than two-tenths of one percent.
Atheism in Oblique...
by exonym
Is mouthing the phrases without living the word.
Re: This is Moveon.org...
by Okie

Arkady:
If I had to guess, I'd wager there are more atheists among left-wingers than right-wingers, but that it's a tiny minority in each group. That's especially true among major politicians. Out of all the members of Congress, I believe there's only a single one who is an "out" atheist. That's less than two-tenths of one percent.

I'd probably agree, but I doubt it's as lopsided as one would think. Look at what we have learned about the GOP politicians over the past few years. They champion a lot of things for money and power that they don't actually believe themselves. Larry Craig, for instance, was one of the most anti-gay senators. Obviously, he couldn't hate gays too much while he was having sex with homosexual men. I'd be surprised if some of the bible beating GOP politicians don't have any belief, but are well versed on reciting Christian rhetoric in order to rise in power.

religion, the lazy man's way to power
by exonym
heck, all you gotta do is memorize some racist or other hatefilled passage from the bible and you got a following...
Agreed, Okie.
by Arkady
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most of those who wielded their supposed "faith" most effectively for political gain were, in fact, non-believers. After all, true belief tends to make people pretty uncomfortable with mixing something that sacred with something as profane as the daily hurly burly of politics. To wield faith as a weapon, most effectively, one needs a certain emotional distance from it, so one can maniuplate it cynically, rather than being genuinely driven by it. Bush
Agreed, Okie.
by Arkady
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most of those who wielded their supposed "faith" most effectively for political gain were, in fact, non-believers. After all, true belief tends to make people pretty uncomfortable with mixing something that sacred with something as profane as the daily hurly burly of politics. To wield faith as a weapon, most effectively, one needs a certain emotional distance from it, so one can maniuplate it cynically, rather than being genuinely driven by it. Bush is a
Agreed, Okie.
by Arkady
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most of those who wielded their supposed "faith" most effectively for political gain were, in fact, non-believers. After all, true belief tends to make people pretty uncomfortable with mixing something that sacred with something as profane as the daily hurly burly of politics. To wield faith as a weapon, most effectively, one needs a certain emotional distance from it, so one can maniuplate it cynically, rather than being genuinely driven by it. Bush is a
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