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Dimbulbs?
by Hi5
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We've got dimmers on the (incandescent) lights in our dining room, living room, and bedrooms. Fluorescents don't work with dimmers. And if I can't dim the lights and create the mood I want, I just plain won't use them.
Re: Dimbulbs?
by PhilfromCalifornia

You are not looking hard enough - dimmable fluorescents are available, as are three-way lamps; although both are more expensive than the incadescents. Due to incentives from the utility companies, standard CFL are priced about on a par with incadescents, at least in my part of California. This is significant since about 1/7 of the population of the country lives in California.

I have been using fluorescents at home for some thirty or forty years, although until fairly recently I was limited to the older linear lamps (40 watt, 4 feet long, etc.) and the circular fixtures. When the CFLs became available, I rapidly switched to them, although the earliest ones were much too warm-toned for my taste, looking more like incadescents. Now, a variety of lamp spectra are available and I use "daylight" bulbs when I can an those usually labeled "bright white" otherwise.

People seem to think that incadescents reproduce sunlight faithfully - they don't! Well maybe they look like the light at dusk, just before the sun drops out of sight. There is a tendency to confuse brightness with whiteness. Daylight fluorescents are a much better simulation of sunlight than any incadescent.

Here are the disadvantages I have found with the CFLs, which have replaced all the incadescents in my house except those in the oven, the microwave, and the refrigerator:

CFLs don't like being cold. It makes them start slowly. If you put them in pot-lights which extend up into the attic, then they will stay dim for a long time after you turn them on in cold weather.

There is poor coordination between manufacturers as to the exact spectrum of a lamp with a particular designation. If you have a multilamp fixture or a multi-fixture array, then when you buy a new bulb, it may not match the rest. It is best to note the brand and model number (on the white base) of a bulb to be replaced in an array and shop for the same one. I am sure that, as the market matures, this inconsistency will go away.

The white ceramic(?) base of the bulb (above the threaded part) is sometimes took large in diameter to allow the bulb to be screwed fully into some fixtures, especially those with globes or reflectors which taper down to the socket. Most bulb do work in most sockets.

Dimmable bulbs in a multifixture installation may not all go off at the same light level as they are dimmed. If you like to dim to nearly dark, you might be disappointed.

You should really dispose of them at a toxic-waste recycling center, but you probably need to visit them occasionally anyway, unless you limit the things you buy very carefully

One of the best parts, for me (and only when using the daylight lamps), is that I can now tell dark blue from black and have stopped labeling my pants (on a pocket), which I had to do when using the incadescents.

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Re: Dimbulbs?
by kuzibah
So, these 3-way and dimmable flourescents? Where exactly should I be looking, because this is the first I've heard of them. I'm willing to buy CFLs at places I do my regular shopping (and I do) for some of my fixtures, but I'm not going to go from store to store seeking out the dimmable ones. And if they exist, why doesn't Wal-Mart stock THEM?
Re: Dimbulbs?
by PhilfromCalifornia

WalMart doesn't stock them because they are expensive. I bought mine at Lightbulbs, Etc. in Montclair, California. Looking them up online is somewhat troubling. There is a site with the same name but no address which has an extensive catalog but it is messed up and keeps recycling the same stuff every few pages. I found the addresses and phone numbers of the store I went to (they moved a few blocks recently and I am not sure whether the listing is the old or new address - I assume the phone number is unchanged), and a second store, also in Southern California. Here they are:

Light Bulbs Etc
8955 Central Avenue
Montclair, CA, 91763
909-482-4414

Light Bulbs Etc
658 North Tustin Avenue
Orange, CA, 92867
714-532-1410

I suspect that diligent searching online will turn up equivalent stores in your area. I wish you luck with your search - many of the references returned by MSN Live Search turned out to be dead ends.
Re: Dimbulbs?
by mtnwomanbc
Phil...'s replies have some good info re: dimmable CFLs, but you could replace the incandescents in your dimmable lamp fixtures with LED bulbs. They are currently VERY expensive, but they are (well, most are) dimmable. Just Google on LED light bulbs and click away...they do still look a bit weird, though.

BTW: for the same lumens, LED light bulbs use even less energy than CFLs, and last even longer, 30,000 hours, give or take.

Disclaimer: I haven't yet bought any -- the prices are still a bit too steep for me to bite the bullet. However, that said, of our home's 63 various and sundry light bulbs, most are CFLs. I kind of like the corkscrew look!
Re: Dimbulbs?
by danielc

That's why they make dimmable fluorescents.

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