You think you've got the right to get on your high horse and argue how 'immoral' I am that I don't give up my childrens' human rights to bodily ownership and informed consent? How about I give you a taste of what I think of a 'mother' who is willing to waste what are probably the last years of her son's life, with him warehoused in daycare? You got something more important to do than make sure your son has the love of his mother and his mother's care and time do you? Something important? like bitching to your fellow citizens about how much you begrudge our civil rights? You disgust me as much as I no doubt disgust you, only difference is, my kid's healthy. Who knows, maybe your kid's vaccines gave him cancer! We didn't make him immunosuppressed you made the decision to flood his body with toxic chemo, your predicament is man made... my children have a right to be born, live and die, EXACTLY how they came into this world, unadulterated. And if you don't like it, just remember, someone like you who refuses to respect individual autonomy and civil rights, is already dead to me.

SarahKou:

You think you've got the right to get on your high horse and argue how 'immoral' I am that I don't give up my childrens' human rights to bodily ownership and informed consent? How about I give you a taste of what I think of a 'mother' who is willing to waste what are probably the last years of her son's life, with him warehoused in daycare? You got something more important to do than make sure your son has the love of his mother and his mother's care and time do you? Something important? like bitching to your fellow citizens about how much you begrudge our civil rights? You disgust me as much as I no doubt disgust you, only difference is, my kid's healthy. Who knows, maybe your kid's vaccines gave him cancer! We didn't make him immunosuppressed you made the decision to flood his body with toxic chemo, your predicament is man made... my children have a right to be born, live and die, EXACTLY how they came into this world, unadulterated. And if you don't like it, just remember, someone like you who refuses to respect individual autonomy and civil rights, is already dead to me.

yes, you have the right to be a crazy, raving, ignorant bitch.

your children are healthy for now. and i hope they stay that way, but they are healthy despite your insanity, not because of it.

Oh I'm crazy and ignorant am I duxfemina? How am I ignorant? do tell. You're ignorant of my and my son's civil rights to self determination. My son is healthy because I raise him myself, I don't leave it up to an underclass of uneducated illegal immigrant hired hands. My son is healthy because I don't think like sheeple like you, I make up my own mind, on when to exercise my own rights. Stick to your own god damn rights and body, and your own child's body, get out of my face. Call me crazy all you want, people like you are dead to me.

Wow. This is almost too horrible to believe. It's tempting to pick this whole post apart, but I'm too appalled to read it again. This just brought my faith in humanity down several notches.

Nice argument Vidya, strong debate points, strong reasoning there. I don't care what you people think, I'll defend my rights and my son's rights to the death.

no one on this post has proposed that you don't have the right to be the crazy, ignorant, inflammatory bitch you are...and clearly you have embraced the right to exercise your right to be such...and if you don't care what we think...why do you reply?

and as far as this "you are dead to me" "defend to the death" broken record wacko nonsense...perhaps someone who is so clearly ignorant of how immunization/viral infection/bacterial infection and medicine in general works should not be so cavalier about death.

I made no argument; in fact, I made it very clear that I was choosing not to make an argument. It's obvious that no logic or reasoning would have an effect on you. I was simply voicing my opinion of your malice and your "me and my kind first" attitude. It's my right (since you're so concerned about those) to do so whether it means anything to you or not, just as it's your right not to care what anyone else says.

I commend you for your dedication to your child, but holy hell, some of the things you've posted here are so hateful and vile it's scary to think people like you could exist. In fact, it's so over-the-top that I almost suspect you to be a troll. But nevertheless, I'm done here. Have fun.

Oh Duxfemina... I'm 'clearly ignorant' of how vaccines work now am I? How is that 'clear' to you huh? from any false statement I've made about vaccines here today? No... because I haven't even spoken in any detail about vaccines. No Duxfemina, you're the crazy socialist fascist bitch, and you're ignorant of my and my childrens' right to consent or refuse consent to any biological agent being placed in OUR bodies, so get out of my face. I'm not the kind to tell you what to do with your body, you are the kind to force others to do things they don't want to do with their bodies, so I you will remain dead to me, and I will defend to the death my rights and the rights of my children. I have plenty of guns if it comes to it.

vidya... 'me and my kind first'... what the f does that even mean?

SarahKou:

Oh Duxfemina... I'm 'clearly ignorant' of how vaccines work now am I? How is that 'clear' to you huh? from any false statement I've made about vaccines here today? No... because I haven't even spoken in any detail about vaccines. No Duxfemina, you're the crazy socialist fascist bitch, and you're ignorant of my and my childrens' right to consent or refuse consent to any biological agent being placed in OUR bodies, so get out of my face. I'm not the kind to tell you what to do with your body, you are the kind to force others to do things they don't want to do with their bodies, so I you will remain dead to me, and I will defend to the death my rights and the rights of my children. I have plenty of guns if it comes to it.

dear sarahkookoo:

get help.

the biological agents you need are functioning brain cells.

i have never advocated forcing anyone to do anything ever.

however, i do have the right to my opinion, which is that you are batshit crazy and an embarrassment to humanity.

and your guns comment is retarded.

get help? brain cells? crazy? batshit? embarassment? retarded? You fucking child. You're a child. You've got nothing, nothing to say, no point to make, nothing worthwhile at all. My guns? My guns will be protecting me should you socialists ever attempt to force vaccinate anyone in my family.

that's great. i hope that at the next klan meeting y'all can figure out how to use your guns to fight rubella, measles, small pox et al.

the bright side of your retarded anti-science stance is that disease will possibly kill off your gene pool before you can do too much harm with your wacked out world view.

p.s. i am a conservative-leaning moderate, but the socialist thing is cute...although, really, pick one:

socialist or fascist

can one really be both?

that you feel the need to heap scorn and hatred on a woman who is about to lose her son.

Anti science? Klan? I don't think so you fucking liar. You're not a fucking moderate if you're anti choice. I'm pro choice, and I'm exercising my choice, if you don't respect it, get the fuck out of my face. Your worldview is anti choice. I hate your worldview. My kid hasn't got measles, and if he does, he'll recover, because he's not full of toxic pharmaceuticals. Fuck you, respect our choice, or get the fuck out. If you socialists ever succeed in bringing about forced vaccination, I'll shoot you in the face.

you're on a computer, genius, no one is in your face, i wouldn't dream of getting in your face, and not because of your batshit crazy threats, but because if i want to see a pig, i can go to a farm.

and no one has advocated forcing you to do anything...we just question your sanity in CHOOSING to deny all logic. but, this is america, you can be an ill-informed, uneducated cow if you CHOOSE.

measles is a deadly disease...even people with healthy immune systems die from it, dipshit. that's why it is dangerous.

so, it is just socialist now? not socialist facsist? are you sure? you can look them up if you need to, which i am certain you do...if, in fact, you know how to use a dictionary.

i'm done with you, you can crawl back under your rock now.