when she finds out that real men don't vibrate....

I hope the vibrator doesn't ruin any future relationship - (now that you're done, honey, I need to get off with my toy.....) She needs to find a willing male partner and get the deed over first, just to see how real sex feels, before getting into unrealistically intense sex with a piece of plastic.

Real sex is more fun if a person knows exactly how to get her or himself off. How can you help your partner push your buttons in the proper fashion if you don't have any idea yourself? Everyone is different, after all, and we don't come with an operating manual. So, it's good for her to experiment in such a safe manner. Secondly, I'm sure she realizes that men don't vibrate without vibrating cock rings. And overuse of the vibrator can make it more difficult for her to orgasm without it. But, the same is also true of boys who use a strong hand while doing the deed. But, some play won't harm her. Thirdly, you make it sound like a woman who requires a vibrator will hop off and finish things off herself without any participation from her partner. But, there are so many different things a couple can do, for instance, he can wield the vibrator, that don't make it a problem. So long as both people are satisfied with the type and frequency of the sex they are having, I fail to see why including a toy is a problem.

I've never met a man who is as squeamish as you're describing.

If she really enjoyed the vibrator so much, she could always use the vibrator first and then they have sex. I'm sure there are a handful of men out there who would be willing to watch a woman pleasure herself before having sex with her. Heck, he'd might even be willing to help out.

Besides that, I have to say when a man is coming, it actually feels a little like a vibrating or throbbing sensation, and I think that's the best part of sex. Wouldn't mind it lasting longer. ;)

LOL. Are you serious? So some girl who KNOWS she isn't ready for sex should go find some guy SOMEWHERE just to have sex with because YOU think she'll be confused by a toy vs a person?

Seriously?!

shotsie:

when she finds out that real men don't vibrate....

I hope the vibrator doesn't ruin any future relationship - (now that you're done, honey, I need to get off with my toy.....) She needs to find a willing male partner and get the deed over first, just to see how real sex feels, before getting into unrealistically intense sex with a piece of plastic.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I've read all day.

Wow. That's ridiculous.

And part of your post is really telling. ("now that you're done, honey, I need to get off with my toy.....") Well, there's nothing wrong with that. If the guy wasn't considerate and caring enough to make sure she came first, then why shouldn't she do whatever she can to get off? With too many heterosexual couples, once the guy comes, it's over, whether or not she came or not. How fair is that?

blueflip:

Wow. That's ridiculous.

And part of your post is really telling. ("now that you're done, honey, I need to get off with my toy.....") Well, there's nothing wrong with that. If the guy wasn't considerate and caring enough to make sure she came first, then why shouldn't she do whatever she can to get off? With too many heterosexual couples, once the guy comes, it's over, whether or not she came or not. How fair is that?

If the chick can't get off from sex because she's relied too much on vibrators to get her off, I'm not sure it's a matter of being considerate or caring enough....at least not as far as one specific sexual encounter is involved. Yes the guy can work with her over time to help her learn to come from intercourse alone, but you're talking a long term(albeit enjoyable) project there, aren't you?

I don't think it indicates a man is inconsiderate if he comes first. It happens sometimes. But if I hadn't come yet and he said that I couldn't masturbate because it would offend his sensibilities, I would think that is inconsiderate.

SamGeek: "Seriously?!"

I know. I read the top post, and this is the only word that keeps reverberating in my head. Except for, "WTF?" that is.

"Unrealistically intense" ? Is this because you have had some disappointing encounters with women personally? While as you stated, unless siezing, men don't vibrate. True. But to me, plastic sex can be seen as just a different, safer style of sex (unless something gets lodged) and in some circumstances, actually -less- intense. I wonder if you're just attempting a joke, though .... anything but is just ridiculous.

aerspirit, you're right--sorry, I didn't mean to say a guy is inconsiderate if he comes first. But he should be willing to help the woman come afterwards, or at least, not get pissy about it if she helps herself out. It's the whole attitude that sex is all about the guy's orgasm that irks me.

And pogue--just using a vibrator now and then doesn't make a woman "vibrator dependent." LOTS of women (in fact, most, from what I've read) can't get off on vaginal sex alone. So, if you're not willing to put in the time necessary in other activities, you shouldn't hold a grudge against a vibrator.

Using a vibrator does not "ruin" a person to normal sex, you idiot. Its just another way to experience pleasure. I've not met one woman who says "Sorry honey, but you're just not interesting since you don't use batteries."

Honestly, this culture is so afraid of anything to do with sex or its variations, its ridiculous. I bet you're terrified of doggy style.

Ituri:

Using a vibrator does not "ruin" a person to normal sex, you idiot. Its just another way to experience pleasure. I've not met one woman who says "Sorry honey, but you're just not interesting since you don't use batteries."

Honestly, this culture is so afraid of anything to do with sex or its variations, its ridiculous. I bet you're terrified of doggy style.

Word.

Dear Lord you're an idiot. Vibrators do not ruin sex for women. Unless you're just a particularly bad lay and can't find a woman who you can pleasure so you just displace your anger at your too-small tool on toys. Anyway, while vibrators are perfectly nice and lovely and get the job done, it really does not compare to a hot-blooded man with wonderful arms and lips and all that other stuff that comes with one. When he was younger, my boyfriend thought sex toys were odd and kinky. Now, some years later, he wants to spice things up and thinks it's a perfectly fantastic idea for us to find some new ways to get each other off. It's all in good fun. So shove it. Don't forget the batteries.

Yikes guy, did I hit a nerve? You really got all that out of my post?

Someone needs a session with a vibrator......