This truly perfect woman (at least in her own mind) is failing to look at the up side of the toilet seat issue. Instead of complaining that she has to put it down, she should be thankful that she has to put it down. By doing so, she is being assured that her co-worker did not have any 'splashing' going on and that she is not going to sit on the residue.

Something to think about ladies.

I equitize the toilet seat issue by putting the lid down as well so the next person has to liftsomething not matter what gender they are.

Curiously I've never heard women complain about having to put the lid up, only the seat down.

Also, I never understood why a woman would sit down to wizz without checking if the seat was in proper position!

The only time I had I hard time checking the toilet seat it was 3 AM when I was 9 months pregnant. Otherwise if its left up I can put it down.

and in the crappy bathroom illumination its hard to see if anything is lurking there

I've never understood this raging battle between men and women. EVERYONE should shut the entire thing -- seat and lid -- before flushing. Ever seen one of those "nature channel"-type slow-mo close-ups of what exactly happens when you flush a toilet?? Little microdroplets of, um, "unsavory" bowl water come flying out all over EVERYWHERE.

I am far from a germaphobe, but that's some pretty gross shit. So to speak.

That plan is good at home... I've never worked anywhere that *had* a lid to close.

This is SUCH a stupid argument, at home or at work; I wish the men would start getting all bent out of shape at their women; "I can't *believe* you left the seat down AGAIN, you know that drives me crazy, now *I* have to lift it!!! You could show a LITTLE common courtesy I mean really, how hard is that..."

I agree, I finally lived with a guy for a month or so and was surprised how inconsequential the whole seat up or down thing was, considering the press it's gotten.

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Also, I never understood why a woman would sit down to wizz without checking if the seat was in proper position!

AMEN! Whenever my mother and sister complain that Dad hasn't put the seat down, I comment on why they're sitting their bare ass down on something without checking first!

I get after my husband about this *constantly*. But I have a good reason. I have two daughters, 4 years and 2 years, who do not check if the seat is down. I've turned around in time to see my older daughter sit on the rim because she doesn't realize to put the seat down, and god forbid my 2 year old fell in. It's unsanitary for them. So for now, I bug him about it constantly, with good reason. I don't complain about our master bath however. My girls don't use ours.

So you're cool with the lid being open all the time as long as the seat is down?

Have you ever seen a tired 4 year try to pee on a toilet lid? I have. They aren't exactly at their full capacity in the middle of the night. It's fun to clean too. :)

The lid thing though.. I think that's largely how you're raised. I'm used to the lid being up. That's just the way it looks right to me.

Haha...oh, I'm looking forward to having children. Except not right now.

I don't get the lid up. Cupboards, closets, and toilets look messy if they're open when not in use. Why even have a lid if you're not going to use it? (The possibility of kids not figuring it out in the dead of night notwithstanding.) When you go in a bathroom to brush your teeth or wash your hands, I don't get the appeal of looking down and seeing skid marks or bits of tp that didn't quite make it down.

As a man, I usually just let it rip, lid up or down. In 25 years, I've developed enough aim to hit the target regardless, most of the time. And if I miss, I just wipe the seat dry with TP. Really not that big of a deal. If I feel the need to move the seat, I use TP to shield my hand. I don't know what happened to the seat before I got there, so if I need to sit, I just cover the seat with TP.

If everyone followed this protocol, I posit that the world would be a better place. Plus, we would all use much more TP, thus propping up the TP industry, and creating more American jobs.

Gosh, I thought more people would complain about it being a common courtesy thing and be more creative about how to solve the problem. If I were that woman, I might super glue a short, strong piece of rubber band to the toilet and the seat so that he has to hold it up while he goes and it will go down on its own when he releases it. A few times of it slamming into private areas may get the message through his other head. I might pick up one of his socks, byt the the top of course, dip it in some water and drag it from the toilet to his pile. When he asks about his wet socks and floor, I'd say. "Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't want to touch the seat to put it down agaain so I used one of your socks you so kindly leave there. It must have accidentally dipped in the toilet; both problems solved.