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Christopher Beam the liberal
by Gatewood
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was WRONG about Joe Wilson's outburst hurting Joe Wilson, and the conservatives were correct in that it would MAKE Wilson's political reputation in a very good way.

NOW the liberal Christopher Beam predicts that Joe Wilson's outburst is going to hurt the conservative movement. Well, the idiot was wrong about Wilson and he's wrong about this as well. Liberals are clueless where conservatives are concerned, which is WHY the conservatives eventually play whackamole with liberal brains . . . in political terms that is.

Re: Christopher Beam the liberal
by OldGaffer
Gatewood, the new William Buckley, the intellectual voice of the Republican party. God help the Republican party.
Re: Christopher Beam the liberal
by opus512

Gatewood:

was WRONG about Joe Wilson's outburst hurting Joe Wilson, and the conservatives were correct in that it would MAKE Wilson's political reputation in a very good way.

NOW the liberal Christopher Beam predicts that Joe Wilson's outburst is going to hurt the conservative movement. Well, the idiot was wrong about Wilson and he's wrong about this as well. Liberals are clueless where conservatives are concerned, which is WHY the conservatives eventually play whackamole with liberal brains . . . in political terms that is.

Which is why only 20% of registered voters claim to be Republicans?

Why is that, you think? Why does the GOP keep losing members even as it keep getting more and more conservative? All this even as the majority of Americans consider themselves 'conservative'?

Explain that, idiot.

Help me out here,
by Gatewood

would that be the same conservative's dominated Republican Party that you mindless liberals declared forever gone, dead, and buried after Obama got elected?

I just want to be certain that we are on the same political page.

Re: Help me out here,
by opus512

Gatewood:

would that be the same conservative's dominated Republican Party that you mindless liberals declared forever gone, dead, and buried after Obama got elected?

I just want to be certain that we are on the same political page.

I'm sorry, maybe you missed the part about 20% of registered voters being Republicans.

And no, it would be the same Republican party that the Republican party declared was a permanent majority, you inane twit.


Just as it should really be called
by Gatewood

the Liberal Party now rather than the Democratic Party, long ago in political terms the Republican Party should have begun calling itself the Conservative Party. Even you should be wise enough to grasp those fluttering factoids as they zip past your face.

Fanatics are in control of BOTH parties. Only fellow IDIOT liberals believe that Obama is any sort of moderate [or at least is acting like one] in his presidency and Bush was as far from being a moderate as it was possible to become. There is no real room for moderates any more in either party. The conservatives are just a bit more open about that fact than the liberals.

Liberals HATE their token Blue Dog Democrats and would LOVE to find a way to replace them with far left leaning Nancy Pelosi or Barack Obama types. Don't even bother pretending otherwise. As the radical Obama keeps trying to lead this nation further left it is only natural that the people will begin tilting to the right as a balancing mechanism.

The irony of all that is that the average voter is stupidity personified [which is HOW Obama became president in the first place -- lacking as he was any real world qualifications for the job] and might very well elect Obama to a second term in office WITHOUT, however, also giving him a democratically dominated House and Senate. The additional irony of that would be to FORCE Obama toward the political center, which in turn might make him a decent president after all.

Politics is fun!

Oh . . . Po-tay-toe versus
by Gatewood

Po-tah-toe. People identify themselves as CONSERVATIVE and therefore they vote for republican politicians because they are nearest to BEING conservative in their outlooks and politics.

Now take two aspirins and go have a rest. I think your brain just exploded. I certainly just heard something rather tiny go POP!

Re: Help me out here,
by CMD

well, I was considered a hard core conservative right up until Limbaugh came along and dumb down the entire GOP. Now the term has been bastardized so much conservatism is today shouted down as liberal socialism by uneducated morons who took over the party, and are an absolute embarrassment to America.

Re: Oh . . . Po-tay-toe versus
by OldGaffer

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) says President Obama has endangered American lives by not doing more to alleviate the nation's short supply of H1N1 vaccine.

"The current administration is solely responsible. They can't blame this on any prior administration," said Wilson. "This is the responsibility of the current administration. They've put the lives of Americans at risk."

The DCCC pointed to a June vote on a supplementary appropriations bill as evidence. Wilson joined 95% of Republicans and voted against the bill, which contained special funding to combat H1N1 both domestically and internationally.

You just cant make this shit up.

Pish-tosh you're either a
by Gatewood

conservative or not. There's plenty of room under the Republican Big Tent for people sharing some core principles while otherwise being as whackadoodle as they come. You got your religious nuts and your gun nuts and your war nuts and your worshipers of Mammon and you got your survivalist nuts, your cultural cranks, and what not.

So it's either that or you become some limp wristed liberal angsting over the sex life of the sacred spotted tree whale . . . or something along those lines. This is because there's really no longer any POLITICAL or IDEOLOGICAL room made anymore for moderates inside EITHER PARTY.

Consider the fact that good little liberals would love to see those Blue Dog [moderate] democrats inside congress flung under Obama's bus. Liberals call them conservative democrats but they really are just old fashioned moderates and so the political and ideological fanaticism is NOT just a dominant part of the structure of one party.

Personally I'd like to see a third party created just for moderates or centrists, but that's not going to happen.

Re: Oh . . . Po-tay-toe versus
by OldGaffer
And Gatewood continues his policy of giving his own top posts a rousing "thumbs up", the most pathetic cry for recognition known on the Fray. Sorry Gatewood, I was just kidding about you being the new William Buckley.
Are you being naive or stupid?
by Gatewood

I presume that anyone going around calling himself the OldGaffer understands ENOUGH in regards to how the political system works in this nation to know that the bill was probably attached as a rider to something wholly pernicious that NO conservative could possibly vote for it in good conscience.

Liberals routinely do that to conservatives when they are in charge of the legislative branch and when the opposite position of political domination is true, then conservatives do the same things to liberals. Grow up or at least get better at being a fatuous slime ball.

Re: Are you being naive or stupid?
by bsharporflat
Sounds like Gatewood should stop complaining about Democrats while they are in power since he hope his own party will act in a similar manner when they return to power. Will it happen in his lifetime? Really, isn't that is the only real question anymore? Who will be in power when you die, so you can die happy or unhappy.
Were you capable of
by Gatewood

doing something as intellectually challenging as reading between the lines you would discover [gasp!] that I am neither a liberal nor a conservative.

Still, no worries mate. I am certain that all those brain cells you are currently preventing from engaging in thought will someday be of some service to you.

Re: Are you being naive or stupid?
by OldGaffer

"I presume that anyone going around calling himself the OldGaffer understands ENOUGH in regards to how the political system works in this nation to know that the bill was probably attached as a rider to something wholly pernicious that NO conservative could possibly vote for it in good conscience."

Sure it was, but the hypocrisy is evident as well, or do you just ignore that little fact. Of course you do, since you are a partisan hack just like Alice, you just have a smoother delivery.

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