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this fat business is like mccarthyism
by tizzie.lish
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Most Americans are fat for reasons that really aren't the result, exclusively, of their individual choices. As this article says, although not, imo, clearly enough, a person's economic reality greatly impact their health.

I am obese. I eat with a careful rigidity. I exercise a lot: I swim one hour almost every single day and I walk about five miles a day (I don't own a car). I lost a lot of weight a few years ago and am keeping it off .. but I have been frozen at 240 pounds (I am female, five feet six inches tall) for about two years.

Before I lost 90 pounds (I had ballooned up to 330), I went through months of near starvation and I couldn't scape off a single pound.

It is a myth that people can lose weight if they follow the rules. Sometimes a person's metabolism is not working.

My metabolism? I took a boatload of psychotropic medications for about twelve years. All those meds cause weight gain. There are class action suits for some of the meds I took because the meds cause . . . diabetes. Also, because lots of those meds cause weight gain. And liver damage. And guess what happens when you have liver damage? Your metabolism goes out of whack. Is it them entirely your fault that you don't lose weight even when you eat 1,200 calories daily, exercise a lot?

My body is damaged.

Additionall, diabetes runs in my family. My grandparents, on both sides, had diabetes. None of them were fat. My dad had it: he wasn't fat.

Did the meds give me diabetes? Was I genetically pre-disposed?

In the years before I actually became diabetic, I watched myself balloon up even though I have never eaten the way people who aren't fat imagine fat people eat. I never pigged out ... sure, in the course of my life, I have eaten to many slices of pizzas or a pint of ice cream . . but for the most part, I have always eaten a very typical amount of food. And I have never really been into sweets.

Now, I eat protein and low carb vegetables (to control my diabetes). .

I have gone on protein fasts, medically supervised: I stil don't lose weight.

It is true that swimming is not a great weight loss exercise, which is why I walk a lot. I love to swim and I know it is good for my health. . .

I know my story is anecdotal . . but I can't help believing that most people who are fat n this country are fat because they eat a typical American diet. As the article points out, poor folks can't afford good produce. So then we penalize people for being poor and fat?

Being fat is a highly complex problem. It is not solely a health issue. The real issue behind the obesity epidemic is economic. Our government subsidizes the production of cheap agricultural products (cheap fructose corn syrup, cheap potatoes, etc), our capitalist economic is ruthlessly designed to entice people to buy crappy manufactured food, then we only pay people barely enough to buy the crappy sucky nonnutritous food . . we don't pay people enough to join gyms and public parks cost more and more money . . and now we are going to penalize capitalisms fat victims by charging them more money for health care?

That is like closing the barn door after the horse has bolted.

And why is it okay to discriminate against fat? Singling out fat people is no different than singling out people with diabetes or cancer and saying 'since you have cancer, we are going to charge you more because you could have avoided getting cancer if you had only eaten organic food and avoided pesticide consumption. ..let's also penalize people with high blood pressure because if they exercised more and ate better. .. and we could penalize people who catch colds because if they wore masks or lived in a bubble they wouldnt catch colds.

And let's charge paraplegics more if they became paraplegic in a car accident because if they had been a better driver . . . .

Re: this fat business is like mccarthyism
by genevieve
tizzie.lish:

It is a myth that people can lose weight if they follow the rules. Sometimes a person's metabolism is not working.

I know my story is anecdotal . . but I can't help believing that most people who are fat n this country are fat because they eat a typical American diet. As the article points out, poor folks can't afford good produce. So then we penalize people for being poor and fat?

My metabolism is also not working...but the other way. I eat whatever I want, I never go to the gym (although I am an active person) and I am still extremely thin. People don't believe me but it's true. So I have to believe that there are others out there who live healthy but cannot lose the weight.

I have never understood the other point about people being fat because they are poor. I just got back from the grocery store, where I bought bagged salad for $1.99 and bananas for $0.88/pound. The pork chops were $2.89/pound. Can someone please explain this to me? You don't have to buy expensive organic produce to eat healthy.

You may be flirting with starvation mode.
by Tundrayeti

As you no doubt are aware, eating too little actually hurts your ability to lose weight. In fact, if you slip into starvation mode, you will gain weight more quickly at 1000 calories a day than you ever could at 2000 calories a day.

Metabolic cycles can also have a tremendous effect on your weight loss, especially if your eating/excercise cycle causes "mini crashes" during the day. I'd advise adding 2 healthy low calorie snacks (maybe 2 small helpings of nuts or something) that would increase you to 1300 calories/day... then replacing 20 minutes of walking with some kind of cardio that is far more vigorous (which should easily counter the extra 100 calories - but those 2 snacks will help assure you're clear of starvation mode and perhaps help even out your metabolic cycle).

Try it for a couple of weeks, and see if it helps...

Also, if you have access to a gym of some kind (or at least a couple of weights), adding a couple of 30 minute resistance training circuits will help you develop more muscle mass, which significantly increases your metabolism... but that might be harder to accomplish for now, so one step at a time.

:)

Follow up,
by Tundrayeti
I forgot to mention water... drink a lot of water. That helps metabolism. You might need to take a multi-vitiman, since you're flushing away a lot more nutrients in your urine... but too little water will cause your body's metabolism to shut down - to conserve water... Sometimes other drinks, such as coffee, will dehydrate the body even though they carry no calories, so whatever you're currently drinking, add several glasses of water/day.
Re: this fat business is like mccarthyism
by kati
Genevieve, try making it on the equivalent of food stamps for one person and try doing this in a neighborhood bereft of large grocery stores.... And try to pretend you have 23 kids who need decent nutrition to grow up healthy... Good luck!
Re: this fat business is like mccarthyism
by kati

Tizzie, you're so right!

By the way, have you seen the posts following the three other articles by Engber on the same topic? I couldn't believe the vitriol and hatred expressed by many of the posters....

So yes, it's absolutely like mccarthyism. Instead of making health care available to Americans, instead of blaming the exhorbitant profits made by private health insurers at the expense of the public, instead of blaming their CEOs' huge salaries and enormous bonuses (50 million!), we are now encouraged to scapegoat people who appear overweight (probably by the standards set by Vogue magazine).... how sad, and how familiar!

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