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Nutshell version: Why Ayn Rand is a crazy ass dingbat
by doodahman
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Yeah, the Superman theory.

Here's the thing about that. So, humans of exceptional talent are not bound by any conventions of morality- no Golden Rule, no eschewing of murder, no recognition of the lives or rights of others, especially us untermenschen.

Okay, fair enough. One can certainly adopt that paradigm and live by it. But as was done to Mr. Hickman, those who operate under that paradigm must be identified, hunted down and put down like rabid dogs, whether they do anything or not. By their own philosophy, there is no reason for society to wait around for those super assholes to harm it. There is no right or wrong but what is right for the state, and the state is society, so society should hunt down these fuckers and kill them. In fact, they should be killed in the slowest, most publicly horrific means available in order to discourage others from engaging in similar philosophies. Crucifixion comes to mind, but I'm open to suggestions.

We should have started with Ayn Rand, and then moved on to her toady ass followers, especially today's so called "conservatives" who are so stupid they confuse the absolute freedom of supermen to do as they want, consume what they want, and acquire what they want no matter what applies to them, and constitutes liberty. These people should be shot not just for harboring Randesque philosophies, but for being stupid to boot.

So, in the end, those wont to consider themselves supermen beyond good and evil can do so. But if they open their mouths one peep, off to the gallows. I'm sure if they are consistent in their views, they would themselves agree with that policy.

Re: Nutshell version: Why Ayn Rand is a crazy ass dingbat
by rusure
I think with some simple substitutions, like changing "supermen" to "Jews" and "Rand" to "Abraham," you basically get the Holocaust. Or change "supermen" to "counter-revolutionaries" and "Rand" to "Marshal Tukhachevsky" and you get the Purge of the Red Army. Or "supermen" to "aristocrats" and "Rand" to "Marie Antionette", you get the Great Terror. I could continue, but I think that should work. Furthermore, aren't you acting as the "superman" in the above article? Pillage, destroy and murder those who you define as untermensch?
Re: Nutshell version: Why Ayn Rand is a crazy ass dingbat
by falcon
Precisely. That's where following Ayn Rand's "philosophy" leads.
Re: Nutshell version: Why Ayn Rand is a crazy ass dingbat
by OThales
Firstly, don't read this article for information on Ayn Rand. It's nothing but swill. It's full of falsehoods, and thus worse than worthless.

This whole idea of "supermen" is b.s. She believed there were men of superior ability (which is true), but she believed all men should be free to pursue their lives and happiness. She did not hold contempt for people who were positive value pursuers. She respected them.

As to your rhetoric on murder and the like, Ayn Rand believed in INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, which means observing the rights of others. So it's clear right away that you (and the guy who wrote the article) just don't know what you're talking about. She also had a very clear code of morality, which was life promoting -- for everyone -- to the nth degree. Read Ayn Rand if you are want to make honest evaluations, otherwise you're just spreading swill.

Re: Nutshell version: Why Ayn Rand is a crazy ass dingbat
by doodahman
OThales:
Firstly, don't read this article for information on Ayn Rand. It's nothing but swill. It's full of falsehoods, and thus worse than worthless.

This whole idea of "supermen" is b.s. She believed there were men of superior ability (which is true), but she believed all men should be free to pursue their lives and happiness. She did not hold contempt for people who were positive value pursuers. She respected them.

As to your rhetoric on murder and the like, Ayn Rand believed in INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, which means observing the rights of others. So it's clear right away that you (and the guy who wrote the article) just don't know what you're talking about. She also had a very clear code of morality, which was life promoting -- for everyone -- to the nth degree. Read Ayn Rand if you are want to make honest evaluations, otherwise you're just spreading swill.

Really? She believes in individual rights for parasites? How about the little girl Hickman murdered? It appears you are greatly confused about what a shitbag the bitch was.

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