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Here is a fellow from the last cotton mill in America. he makes 9 dollars an hour. many of his contemporaries made far less before their mills were sent to Mexico for even cheaper labor.

This man only makes about 20,000 dollars a year. Yet his job is in danger because of "cheap" labor. He now is required to work 12 hour shifts.

How cheap do the globalists want people to work? Will they still be howling about wages that are 6,000 dollars a year? Of course they will, in many nations where the globalists are setting up shop 3,000 dollars a year is being called middle class.

Think about that folks, are you going to be able to live comfortably on 3,000 dollars a year? Will your children be able to pay of the national debt on 3,000 dollars a year? Will they be able to pursue their dreams on 3,000 dollars a year. Will they be able to raise their own children on 3,000 dollars a year.

Getting back to the man who makes 20,000 dollars a year. After food and clothing for his family, after rent, utilities, transportation, and maybe a new fishing pole once a decade, how is there anything left to save for college when college is 6,000 dollars a year before all other incidentals. Where does this hard working American have extra money to save for retirement? Or even a reasonable vacation once and awhile? Perhaps a dozen roses every fifth wedding anniversary?

Hundreds of thousands, millions actually across the nation in similar situations have been tossed to the streets because our globalists and those who apologize for them have determined that these men make too much money. "Oh, Oh, we'll save so much money on our products" they loudly exclaim, well read the last sentence in that link.

Please read the whole article, the effects of our insane trade policies are demonstrated throughout.

If you think wages in other places are horrifically low, the best way to change this is globalization. Cutting of trade with such nations will only serve to lower wages there and increase unemployment.

You treat globalization as being something that impacts only the price of a commodity. Globalization is much, much more than that. It impacts wages, standards, environment. Think long-term, not knee jerk.

Last thought: you should have anticipate my response.

Please provide a list of improved wages for American workers since the advent of globalism and trade with slave wage nations.

Or shut up and flush your head in the toilet.

Men and women who work for a living cannot wait for 50 years to see if this theory will work. They are losing their homes and lively odds now, their children are losing their opportunities to achieve higher education now.

How does throwing the man in the mill out onto the street improve his life? Please answer?

I have written over and over and over again about how globalization affects standards and wages and our enviroment. It has been an unmitigated disaster for the wages of Americans and our standards and has poisoned much of the rest of the world where there are no environmental standards. Surely you anticipated this reply?

If it cutting of trade in those nations raises their unemployment but increases our employment then fine, so be it. Raise their wages to a level similar to ours and we can all compete fairly. Or don't let their products in. Your policy is insane, unless you want to see America with 95% of its citizens working 12 hours a day for poverty wages and the other 5% filthy rich beyond the imagination of even the most vile madoff's of the world.

You didn't address a single legitimate issue in the post, you just made a very inaccurate knee jerk reaction defending globalism at the cost to American workers. Please re read the top post and re read the linked article more carefully.

10 - cotton picking by hand (john deere)

9 - rail splitter (automated logging operations)

8 - gravedigger (backhoes)

7 - street sweeper (automation killed it)

6 - mailman (email killed it)

5 - longshoreman (container shipping killed it)

4 - railroad "fireman" (electrified and diesel locomotives)

3 - clerk/typist (personal computers and the web automated this)

2 - door to door sales (the internet does this)

1 - house painter (vinyl siding and stucco home exteriors have made this obsolete)

get skills, people. the cotton mill isn't the only thing that's going out of business.

The jobs being lost today are not being lost to machinery. they are being lost to unfair trade practices and most importantly to slave wages and subsistence wages being paid to people forced to work in sub human conditions.

If you want to live in a nation that resembles what Mexico is facing today, then keep inserting your head into the sand.

The globalists might murder me in the street, but I'll go down knowing I stood up.

The government will Provide.

Well pretty soon most of Mexico will be living in the US, so why shouldn't we be more like Mexico?

Americans are overpaid. Overpaid and underskilled. You expect high wages for jobs that humans with lobotomies could do. Why? Why should Americans overpay for the consumer goods they purchase? Why would you want to punish Americans this way?

You've "written over and over and over again?" Who gives a fuck what you've written, moron.

Your remedy is that Americans should pay more, have far less disposable income, should purchase inferior goods, and sit back and watch as the government cuts basic services because it can no longer raise enough tax revenues. Moron.

I didn't say American wages would go up, you pimple. I said wages in these other nations would. Globalization isn't merely something impacting the price of a commodity - it impacts everything - wages, goods, environment.

You want examples you idiot? Costa Rica. Chile.

Chile in particular - in order to join NAFTA - an agreement which is all about globalization - has been strengthening it's environmental laws and compliance.

Get it pimple? Chile's improved environmental laws are due to globalization. Really you need to shut up on economic issues. You're so wrong, you're dangerous.

So from your point of view, Americans should live more like third worlders? The good news is that will never sell. The bad news is our government may agree with you.

In the heat of your righteous indignation, you called him a pimple twice. Try not to be so repetetive in your childish insults next time around.

Americans will be like third worlders only if they think they should spend a lot more for inferior goods. And as the rest of the world retaliates with the Buy anbody but American campaign, America will quickly bypass third world nations and land itself in the exclusive territory of fourth world - poor - and hated.

Kira:

Until such time as the US is dethroned as the leading consuming nation of the world, it will remain the largest market in the world in which to dump product from the over capcitized manufacturing world for some time to come. We are the gluttons of the world . . . plain and simple. The US does have a function in that respect or until other countries that manufacture can consume the product they manufacture at equivalent levels as the US to sustain themselves. China should surpass the US (if it hasn't yet) in manufacturing capability in the next year or so.

One could argue the higher prices paid establish the base for the infrastructure in which citizens live; but, that is really not the issue now is it? Simply speaking, you can't buy pure American Manufactured Product because it doesn't exist as the components of the product are made globally.

Since a large percentage of productivitity gains from the last 20-30 years have been directed into profits and have not been shared with labor with any magnitide; income has remained substanitially less than what it should have been if not stagnant, than if shared. If the trend continues, and it will, it will have a far greater impact on income than prices will over the next decade. Now magnify this globally and the dream of global equity may fall far short of expectations as automation continues to eliminate the need for labor, cheap or not. Do you truly believe industry is promoting globalization for the environment and safe labor practices? Are all WTO contracts signed the same or do many have exceptions carefully written into them?

The real issue is what to do with the glut of labor sitting on the sidelines and the growing population that may never have a chance to work. The highest percentage of the noninstitutional civilian population engaged in the civilian labor force was experienced in 2000. It has been down hill since then with ~2% more of the population twiddling their thumbs these days. It will get progressively worst until there is greater job creation and until the US switches to creating products and services of value.

While Nick may have a 20th century argument; however, your response lacks foresight and isn't much better. Automation will eliminate the need for either cheap or expense labor whether it is building good or poor products and the profits will become even more focused and away from labor negating the spread of benefits.

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through technologicaly innovation shouldn't direct profits to labour. If anything, it should be pushing labour costs down, as skills become less needed.

Historically, there have been those concerned about a "growing population that may never have a chance to work". These same people bemoan technological innovation. I don't buy it. Not for a minute.

My response stands - you haven't addressed any issues I have.

Kira:

Only Labor produces value through services provided or product produced. With a decreased amount of labor needed, labor wages increase either through monetary increases, more benefits, or less hours worked. None of this has been experienced. Labor costs decrease within the product due to productivity increases not through decreased wages. All of this is pretty well documented.

You do not have to buy a thing I say, I just addressed the issues at a different level. I am giving you the 22nd century perspective.

sentence: "labor costs decrease within the product due to productivity increases not through decreased wages".

The airline industry proves you wrong. Honestly, I don't know what you're trying to say. More honestly, I don't know that you know what you're trying to say.

Kira:

Think about it in relation to what has been going on over the last 30 years with regard to productivity gains and labor share of those productivity gains across the economy and perhaps read some more. As I said, it is pretty well documented.

Thank you for your time.