our conservative friends scoffed at the idea that some banks were to big to fail even though it would have meant the end of capitalism i.e. there is not capitalism if there is no capital flowing into the free markets.

yet......

when it comes to health insurance companies they claim the public option would make them fail hence, we can't have the public option.

so the banks that keep capitalism alive should be allowed to fail but health insurance companies which literally allows people to die should be saved.

hypocrisy thy name is conservative

Say what???

Apple and oranges my friend. Banks (all private enterprises) should be allowed to fail. But being allowed to fail and killing something with government is totally different.

If the PO was on the same playing field to make insurance companies honest then the PO should operate under the same conditions.

- they have to borrow capital with intrest, not get free Fed money

- they need to negotiate medical payments without Fed or state laws to back them up

- there should not be any exchange. it is not fair if the refs are on your team.

- if the PO fails, no bailout. LOL- we all can see it now. Poor mrs. smith, say schuemer, with out the PO she will have no healthcare so we have to give the PO another trillion maybe two. insurance companies can't print money niether should the PO

Ignorance thy name is liberalism

you give me nothing but smoke and mirrors.

how do you come up with your projected scenario?

you simply make it up.

you have no proof to back up your assertions.

did you know that connecticut already has a public option as other states do.

it has not hurt the health insurance industry which is literally based there.

here are facts, but then conservatives don't do well with facts, they go on supposition and feelings.

In the form of the Charter Oak Health Plan:

The goal of the Charter Oak Health Plan is to provide affordable health care coverage to Connecticut adults, aged 19 to 64, of all incomes. It’s the first time every uninsured adult in Connecticut can get quality, affordable health insurance, and it costs as little as $75 per month in premiums, depending on your income.

This is what our Republican Governor, Jodi Rell, said about the Charter Oak Plan last month on its one-year anniversary:

"A little over a year ago, I announced the start of a program I said would change the face of health care in Connecticut – change it for the better and change it forever," Governor Rell said. "Today that program is covering 10,257 individuals and another 5,884 applicants are eligible for coverage as soon as they select from one of three contracted health plans and begin paying monthly premiums.

"That means more than 10,000 people who – a year ago – had no health coverage or could not afford the coverage they had now have affordable health care," the Governor said. "That is an accomplishment worth celebrating. From routine checkups to treatment for life-threatening illness, the program is filling a critical gap. "

religiouslib:

you give me nothing but smoke and mirrors.

how do you come up with your projected scenario?

you simply make it up.

you have no proof to back up your assertions.

did you know that connecticut already has a public option as other states do.

it has not hurt the health insurance industry which is literally based there.

here are facts, but then conservatives don't do well with facts, they go on supposition and feelings.

In the form of the Charter Oak Health Plan:

The goal of the Charter Oak Health Plan is to provide affordable health care coverage to Connecticut adults, aged 19 to 64, of all incomes. It’s the first time every uninsured adult in Connecticut can get quality, affordable health insurance, and it costs as little as $75 per month in premiums, depending on your income.

This is what our Republican Governor, Jodi Rell, said about the Charter Oak Plan last month on its one-year anniversary:

"A little over a year ago, I announced the start of a program I said would change the face of health care in Connecticut – change it for the better and change it forever," Governor Rell said. "Today that program is covering 10,257 individuals and another 5,884 applicants are eligible for coverage as soon as they select from one of three contracted health plans and begin paying monthly premiums.

"That means more than 10,000 people who – a year ago – had no health coverage or could not afford the coverage they had now have affordable health care," the Governor said. "That is an accomplishment worth celebrating. From routine checkups to treatment for life-threatening illness, the program is filling a critical gap. "

Interesting so in the plan in Connecticut, the government acts as a broker with these contracted private insurance companies? In otherwords lumping 10K people together to get a group rate.

Or does it subsidize the policies?

its a combination tarkol.

you have a choice of 3 different plans from 3 insurance companies but there is a sliding scale based on income and the state subsidizes the difference.

now obviously the deductibles are high but it does a good job covering about everything.

The truth is that any sane person realizes that the hyprocrites are on the RIGHT and the LEFT. And that's really the truth.

The righties don't want a public option. How'd UPS and Fedex do against the post office even when it was gov't run operation?

And lefties, how good are these gov't programs working? And don't give me the military answer because every time gov't screws with them, we end up in trouble so what they usually do is rubber stamp the budget. And that's when it runs.

So what am I missing here? If the CT plan is so hot, why don't other states mirror your plan and we can keep the stinking feds out of it entirely? I suppose the feds could "subsidize" some of the states that are too poor to fully subsidize their poorest residents?

I'm for anything that keeps the stinking feds out of our lives.