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Protecting the Troops
by TheBell
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Well, now we know part of the source of the holdup, as a decision remains forthcoming from President Obama regarding Afghanistan. Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has been personally overseeing a series of war games meant to predict the likely responses of the Taliban and al-Qaida to introducing different troop levels into the current situation.

The simulations are doubtless part of an attempt to break a deadlock between military and civilian leaders regarding the best course in Afghanistan. General Stanley McChrystal, the commander in the field, is requesting an immediate forty thousand additional troops. He is adamant that nothing less will allow the United States to be successful there. On the other side, senior Administration and Congressional personnel, such as Vice-President Joe Biden and Democratic Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, insist a smaller, phased approach is preferable.

Meanwhile, as violence in Afghanistan persists and U.S. deaths continue to mount, public support for the war there is fading, with many, especially those on the far left, calling on Obama to bring the troops home now.

Largely, Republicans have taken a hawkish view, arguing the need for more troops is a no-brainer. Leading this charge is former Vice-President Dick Cheney, who last week told the Center for Security Policy that Obama’s “dithering” on Afghanistan was endangering troops there as well as U.S. national security. “Make no mistake,” warned Cheney. “Signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries.”

“What Vice-President Cheney calls ‘dithering,’ President Obama calls his solemn responsibility to the men and women in uniform and to the American public,” countered White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs. “I think we've all seen what happens when somebody doesn't take that responsibility seriously.”

For his part, Obama vowed before a collection of service personnel at a Naval Air Station in Jacksonville Florida that he would not allow critics to rush him. “While I will never hesitate to use force to protect the American people or our vital interests, I also promise you this . . . I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm's way . . . Because you deserve the strategy, the clear mission, the defined goals and the equipment and support you need to get the job done.”

What we see here is the same partisan polarization that marks healthcare reform and most other decisions coming out of Washington these days. Democrats and Republican not only fail to agree on the best approach but both evoke the shibboleth of “protecting the troops” to sanctify and defend their opposing positions.

In the midst of this rancor, an actual bipartisan victory for the troops has been lost from view. President Obama signed H.R. 1016, the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, into law last Thursday. This worthy legislation secures timely funding for veterans’ health care delivered through the Veterans Administration. It authorizes Congress to approve VA medical care appropriations one year in advance of the start of each fiscal year. An advance appropriation protects veteran healthcare against delays or denials due to political or budgetary squabbling.

At a time when each Party seems determined to block and oppose anything offered up by the other on principle, the House passed this bill with overwhelming support, 409 to 1.

This legislation comes at a time of urgent need. Speaking at a mental health summit this week, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates characterized traumatic brain injuries among veterans returning from Afghanistan and Iraq as “widespread, entrenched and insidious.” A study published last year by the RAND Corporation estimates there could be more than six hundred thousand service members in need of services.

According to Gates, returning wounded soldiers unable to take on further burdens face a bureaucratic system backlogged by hundred of thousands of disability claims as well as paperwork that can be “frustrating, adversarial, and unnecessarily complex.”

VA Secretary Eric Shinseki noted that many veterans are returning homes with “invisible wounds” of mental illness and maintained, “Warriors suffer emotional injuries as much as they do physical ones.”

Lawmakers have been “dithering” over this legislation since February 2009. Its passage marks a real and substantial victory at protecting those soldiers who have already paid most dearly to defend this country. Obama, Gates, and Shinseki have next promised to tackle reforming bureaucracy to make it easier for the Pentagon and VA to exchange information and shorten waits for veterans to get disability benefits. We can only hope they will be equally victorious at this endeavor.

While the passage of this bill marks a refreshing pause in the usual Washington poisonous partisanship, it would be sadly naïve to assume it indicated any real precedent. Regardless of where each of us stands on the question of our future in Afghanistan, reasonable people should at least be able to agree it is a complex and difficult issue. Even this simple consensus seems unlikely.

The desire for quick and uncomplicated answers is understandable from a political perspective. Unfortunately, spin doctoring, slogans, and sound bites, much like shibboleths, make poor balm for the wounds suffered by our vets. It may well be that all sides are equally sincere in their desire to represent the best interests of U.S. soldiers. Yet significant support for whatever course of action Obama ultimately decides upon seems unlikely when the major camps cannot even agree on what is in the best interest and protection for our troops.

am i understanding this correctly?
by baltimore aureole

the decision on additional troops is going to based on the outcome of a simulation?

geez - am i ever embarassed. i'd been thinking that obama was simply holding this up until after the elections in a week or so . .. so that he didn't hurt the chances of democrats in new jersey, virginia, etc.

its such a relief to learn that (instead) or military strategy is based on the movie "wargames" (1983, starring matthew broderick). <link>

wait - should i be relieved, or afraid?

And while Obama has one thumb
by JackDallas

in his mouth and the other one up his ass...8 more troops die in Afghanistan.

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Jack

Re: And while Obama has one thumb
by Michael09

You need to start looking on the bright side, they can easily be replaced.

US Workers Starved Into Military Service

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Re: am i understanding this correctly?
by sashal12
wait - should i be relieved, or afraid?-BA

You should be afraid .

the death of your brain function now is irreversible....

Re: am i understanding this correctly?
by LaurieAnnM
double negative,sashal12. Death is always irreversible.
Re: am i understanding this correctly?
by LaurieAnnM

On that,ba: 70% of local voters in those elections say Obama's opinion has zero effect on them.Reported of all places today,:MSNBC.

Maybe the Koolade is finally wearing off a bit over there..due to their sky diving ratings.

:-)

~LAM

And eight more have just been killed ...
by SpeakerNancy

"The deaths in multiple attacks on Tuesday made October the deadliest month for U.S. troops since the Afghanistan war began." From the nytimes.com, seven minutes ago. (I was going to try a link there but the Times has grayed out the url address, hmmmmmm.)

Excellent, thoughtful post, The B. I'm wondering, however, if President Obama can really make the right decision here. He's waffled so much already, to this point and now his Press Secretary tells us it will be three more weeks before he "decides." And every day, losses of US troops mount. Is this Iraq all over again? (Not that geobushJR waffled -- ever -- until the end of his term, but I mean in complexity of the situations over there.)

It's this kind of hesitation and failures like this to know his own mind that worried me so much last year during the primaries. I worry now about competence (not intellectual, that is clear), leadership, the clear lack of executive and managerial experience, and attendant (in)ability to ACT. Any thoughts?

SN/t.

Part of the Course
by TheBell

Hi, baltimore aureole. It's not all bad, really. The Pentagon has had a "war college" for years and they send guys like McChrystal and Petraeus early on in their careers, once it becomes clear they have the potential to be field officers. They spend their time there studying strategy, of course, but also playing various games to sharpen their skills. I am sure that in modern times computer simulations are just "part of the course." Game theory is used by quite a number of very big businesses to make very big decisions.

Relieved or afraid? I guess it depends on just how much Joshua has learned.

Thank you for your reply.

Cause and Effect
by TheBell

Hi, JackDallas. No question the situation in Afghanistan is awful at the moment but surely you don't believe deaths would stop there simply because Obama does/does not authorize more troops or adopts some new strategy/goals there? Does the fact he is still deciding mean those eight soldiers died for nothing? -- I'll let you call their parents and tell them that. Lots of those 40,000(?) additional soldiers will also die if sent. There is cause and effect operating here but the biggest cause is simply the nature of war itself.

Whether we ultimately prevail or not in Afghanistan or Iraq, no matter what state of flux either country may be in, the soldiers fighting there right now who die do so in an attempt to carry out specific missions assigned to them by their superiors. The death of any soldier is tragic but if they die attempting to do their duty, I can never think of it as being in vain. Just my thoughts. Thanks for replying with your own.

Another D Day or Another Vietnam?
by TheBell

Hi, SpeakerNancy. The word "waffle," much like "dither" carries a certain value judgement, so if that is genuinely how you view Obama's delay, it would seem to me your mind is mostly made up about him, at least on this point. Personally, I am hard-pressed to fault anyone for trying to know their own mind and, as I said in my top post, I see this as a very complex and difficult choice to make. Still, your point is well taken that Obama cannot play Prince Hamlet forever here (and elsewhere) and must finally make up the mind he has tried to know so well.

D Day was over two years in planning -- it was more than a year before the Combined Chiefs of Staff approved the basic tactical plan and turned the thing over to Eisenhower. From what Western historians can piece together, the Viet Cong spent over six months planning the Tet Offensive. I am not trying to draw exact comparisons but I do think Obama has a very major decision to make about our future in a country where we have already been fighting longer than the entire length of the Second World War and which threatens to consume as much time, lives, and emotional drain as Vietnam. If we must err one way or another, I perfer caution.

Thank you for replying.

i'm down with "war colleges", bell . . .
by baltimore aureole

what i dont get is why, after 8 years in afghanistan, anyone believes we're running a last minute "simulation" right AFTER the general requests 40,000 troops.

what do we expect - the pentagon is going to say "oops - the simulation says we lose?"

whatever the simulation shows, we knew that far earlier than now. there is no "new" simulation taking place this month. its been ongoing for 8 years.

personally, i don't believe we can put enough troops in carjackistan to keep every hamlet and opium village safe from taleban infiltration after the sun sinks behind the giant mountain in the west and they turn out the kersene lantern in the tribal elder's house.

but that's just me talking. if you think you need a simulation to recheck my logic, walmart is having a "back to afghanistan" sale on kerosene lanterns and pocket calculators this month.

according to the WaPo . . .
by baltimore aureole

i read the washington post a few times each week (the baltmore sun is setting)

according to the WaPo, virginia's voters are unimpressed by the fact that the republican candidate once wrote a college term paper saying abortion is bad. this has been the sum and substance of the candidacy of R. Creigh Deeds, democratic candidate.

with a name that goofy he's going to lose no matter what he digs up on his opponent.

the republican is winning with all the rhetoric which democrats thought was discredited - lower taxes, mind those deficits, aim to create new jobs by making virginia a business friendly place

damn those republicans - they're always refusing to play dead

What I Am Not Hearing In This "Debate"
by DallasNE

We have been in Afghanistan for 8 long years. It has been a series of mistakes, starting with the decision to rotate troops from Afghanistan for a build-up for Iraq -- which was a major contributor to bin Laden being able to escape from Tora Bora.

Suddenly we have the proponent of that failed policy concerned about dithering. The other thing I am hearing neither from Cheney nor Gen. McChrystal is what the exit strategy is. It seems rather prudent to perform studies on what is likely to happen with, say, 10,000 more troops, 40,000 more and 60,000 more. The other thing with the 2 higher numbers is where do we get these troops from? More stop loss orders -- and what about the impact on moral that has.

Then we have to factor in next months run-off election and how fraud and corrupt that might have. My fear is that the good General is still locked in on the old "clear, hold, build" strategy that is constantly mired down in "clear". We have had 8 years to get results so I guess the thinking is that doubling down will get double the results. The only problem is that zero squared is still zero. Yes, some will say the "surge" worked in Iraq but it didn't start to work until al Sadr declared a unilateral cease-fire. I hardly thing the Taliban will declare a unilateral cease-fire. We are faced with ugly and more ugly. Now that is ugly.

I Think It Is Interesting That You Bring Up
by DallasNE
The Tet Offensive because that may be what is going on in Afghanistan right now. Get the American dead up to a point where the American public sours on the war and the public demands that we get out.
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