Big Bad Fox News is misstreating them. Being unfair. Boo, Hoo. MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN are all giving such great coverage of Obama but they need it to be unanimous.

Everyone knows that one of the first things Socialists do is control the press like his buddy Chavez does. Poor Barrie. He will never control the press here nor the American people. 2010 will mark the beginning of the end for little Barrie.

Old Man Dodo, you have it all wrong. It's Fox who's boo-hooing because the Prez won't come out and play with them. Where were you, Old Man Dodo, when Bush used Fox as a propaganda vehicle for 8 years (after succeeding in using the mainstream press to successfully push for the Iraq War?) Were you calling Bush a socialist who controlled the press?

oldmanriver:

Big Bad Fox News is misstreating them. Being unfair. Boo, Hoo. MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN are all giving such great coverage of Obama but they need it to be unanimous.

Everyone knows that one of the first things Socialists do is control the press like his buddy Chavez does. Poor Barrie. He will never control the press here nor the American people. 2010 will mark the beginning of the end for little Barrie.

Sure everyone knows the first thing Socialists do, but what about the second thing?

was bush a socialist for bailing out the banks and cars.

was bush a socialist for declaring war on dan rather.

was bush a socialist when he expanded medicare and federal aid to education.

you don't know what you are talking about.

so go protest your socialized government run health care called medicare.

Go to Hellapoppin,;

Fox's rating are much higher since Obama tried his little power play. After trying to freeze Fox out, the other networks took Fox's side and the socialists backed down. Fox is crying all the way to the bank. but it is Obama who is screwing himself. He could reach more people in 1 hour on Fox than he could on CNN, MSNBC, and MSNBC combined in a month. And polls show there are many independents and democrats that watch Fox.

Fox just gave Bush fair reporting. I guess that means propaganda in your mind. Bush didnt hire a bunch of czars who are all admitted socialists or communists. Bush didnt try to take over auto companies or financial companies.. Bush didnt try to cap salaries at private institutions. Bush didnt try to indoctrinate students. Bush didnt have a regulatory czar that admires Chavez's effort to control the media as incredible. Bush didnt have a person in his administration that admires Mao. Bush didnt try to take over the healthcare system. Bush didnt want to put private insurance companies out of business. So your comparison of Bush vs obama on socialism is about as valid as comparing Mao to Mother Teresa.

If Bush used the media to push the Iraq war, then the Dems used the media to undermine the Iraq war effort.

Why dont you use your critical thinking skills if you have them before you respond with a nonsensible post?

was bush a socialist for bailing out the banks and cars. Bush was against bailing out the auto industry and clashed with obama on that in the last few months of his presidency.

was bush a socialist for declaring war on dan rather. I remember Rather trying to use a forged document in an effort to affect the "04 election. Bush never came out and said that CBS and Rather were not a news organization like BO has done with Fox.

was bush a socialist when he expanded medicare and federal aid to education. Sorry not even close. Bush at least had the sense to postpone the prescrip drug benefit until after the economy recovered from 9/11. He also wanted drug companies to negotiate with healthcare providers while the socialist dems wanted the govt to negotiate with the drug companies. Do you not see a socialist trend here? Bush thought the Dem approach would amount to fedral price controls;.

So my question to you is this. Why do you get your panties in a wad because someone calls obama what he is which is a socialist? r possibly more extreme like Vann Jones?

so go protest your socialized government run health care called medicare.

oldmanriver:

Go to Hellapoppin,;

Fox's rating are much higher since Obama tried his little power play. After trying to freeze Fox out, the other networks took Fox's side and the socialists backed down. Fox is crying all the way to the bank. but it is Obama who is screwing himself. He could reach more people in 1 hour on Fox than he could on CNN, MSNBC, and MSNBC combined in a month. And polls show there are many independents and democrats that watch Fox.

Fox just gave Bush fair reporting. I guess that means propaganda in your mind. Bush didnt hire a bunch of czars who are all admitted socialists or communists. Bush didnt try to take over auto companies or financial companies.. Bush didnt try to cap salaries at private institutions. Bush didnt try to indoctrinate students. Bush didnt have a regulatory czar that admires Chavez's effort to control the media as incredible. Bush didnt have a person in his administration that admires Mao. Bush didnt try to take over the healthcare system. Bush didnt want to put private insurance companies out of business. So your comparison of Bush vs obama on socialism is about as valid as comparing Mao to Mother Teresa.

If Bush used the media to push the Iraq war, then the Dems used the media to undermine the Iraq war effort.

Why dont you use your critical thinking skills if you have them before you respond with a nonsensible post?

Actually, Bush hired more "czars" than Obama has. And, so far, none from either batch is an "admitted socialist or communist". Maybe you're just thinking of the "explanations" Fox News has provided you with?

Sure, Fox News gets good ratings. So does Rush and Glenn. But, "good ratings" in the cable and radio broadcast industry can mean 10-15% market share. Which is nowhere NEAR the kind of majority (or plurality) that's needed to win elections, or govern effectively. And, when your crowd jumps back and forth, alternating between "fair and balanced" and "We're making tons of money!", you sort of negate your own manufactured outrage.

And, do you SERIOUSLY think it was "the media" or "Democrats" who tricked Bush into his disastrous war???? The rest of us remember him regularly intoning his "stay the course" song. Jeeze! Cheney's STILL singing that song -- real-world events, notwithstanding. Do you crave a press that will just not report adverse events, or events that seem contrary to a president's rosy "explanations"? I don't. I sorta prefer reality, even when it's an unpleasant reality.

Bush got a compliant press corps to avoid even COVERING the terrible cost of his war. He simply deemed it "unpatriotic" to openly recognize the scale of human sacrifice that his Iraq Adventure cost. Jeeze! Bush even told a group of soldiers in Afghanistan (to be sure, from the safety of a long-distance conference call!) that he ENVIED them the "romantic adventure" they were enjoying in his war.

And, you think it's wrong for an educational institution to try to, well... educate students? I think it's kind of what they're there for. Labeling it "indoctrination" is just a confession of your own linguistic shortcomings.

You seriously believe Senator Obama somehow "tricked" poor GW Bush into that TARP bailout? I'm pretty sure the signature on those bills was G.W. Bush.

But, thanks for reminding us about the "critical thinking skills" you've acquired from a steady diet of Fox Newspeak!

Fox "News" was basically the conservative media outlet of the Bush White House for the entire time. Fox didn't "report" on what happened policy wise, it just passed the info on to the viewers and demanded that nothing be questioned. Fox was strict like that. They were loyalists.

To say that Fox just gave Bush "fair" reporting is pure bullshit. Fox was in on the joke that was the Bush presidency from the begining. And they were there til the bitter end as well.

That's the fact, jack.

Actually, Bush hired more "czars" than Obama has. And, so far, none from either batch is an "admitted socialist or communist". Maybe you're just thinking of the "explanations" Fox News has provided you with? Wrong Vann Jones is an admitted communist. Anita Dunn admires Mao so what does that tell you? Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change. Mark Lloyd, newly appointed Chief Diversity Officer of the FCC.Lloyd is a disciple of Saul Alinsky and fan of Hugo Chavez, wants to destroy talk radio and says free speech is a distraction. The new FCC diversity "czar" says Venezuela is an example we should follow. There are several other crazies in his czar family but dont have time to go into them.

Sure, Fox News gets good ratings. So does Rush and Glenn. But, "good ratings" in the cable and radio broadcast industry can mean 10-15% market share. Which is nowhere NEAR the kind of majority (or plurality) that's needed to win elections, or govern effectively. And, when your crowd jumps back and forth, alternating between "fair and balanced" and "We're making tons of money!", you sort of negate your own manufactured outrage. A recent gallop poll shows that 40% of the country is conservative while only 20% are liberal. I dont see the hypocracy of making money and being fair and balanced. It is the fact that they are fair and balanced that gives them the ratings.

And, do you SERIOUSLY think it was "the media" or "Democrats" who tricked Bush into his disastrous war???? The rest of us remember him regularly intoning his "stay the course" song. Jeeze! Cheney's STILL singing that song -- real-world events, notwithstanding. Do you crave a press that will just not report adverse events, or events that seem contrary to a president's rosy "explanations"? I don't. I sorta prefer reality, even when it's an unpleasant reality. What I said was that every step of the way, the Dems undermined the war effort in Iraq. I can hear the Bush lied chant every day. Harry reid saying the war was lost. hillary calling gen Patraius a liar. Jack Murtha accusing our troops of murdering in cold blood. Kerry takes the cake because he undermined the vietnamese and iraq wars. Where you get your conclusions I have no idea.

And, you think it's wrong for an educational institution to try to, well... educate students? I think it's kind of what they're there for. Labeling it "indoctrination" is just a confession of your own linguistic shortcomings.

mmm barak Hussein obama

he’s really an ass,
His socialist agenda won’t pass,

mmm Barak Hussein Obama

His empty suit will hang in shame,
In the presidential library that bears his name.

mmm barak Hussein obama

he is called a messiah

but is really a liar

mmm barak Hussein Obama

he will take your wealth

and then your health

mmm barak Hussein Obama

he spends like crazy

to give to the lazy

mmm barak Hussein Obama

the dollar is weak

because it is power they seek

mmm Barak Hussein Obama

his leadership is lax

all he can do is tax

mmm barak Hussein obama

1. you cant take our rights

2. without some fights

3. mmm bho

4. he is so wrong

which will end this song LOL

You seriously believe Senator Obama somehow "tricked" poor GW Bush into that TARP bailout? I'm pretty sure the signature on those bills was G.W. Bush. If you are critical of the Tarp bailouts of the financial industry that bush signed. then you should be even more critical of obama for taking bailouts and spending which triples the deficit for 2009 vs 2008. And Bush was not for taking over the auto industry with the Tarp funds. If I recall, obama and the dems were all for the Tarp funds so it is not like obama hands are clean on this one.

I think oldmanriver's done an EXCELLENT job, showing us just how informed Fox Newspeak's fan base is. Really!

It doesn't matter how many people call themselves "conservative" in this country. The only thing that matters on election day is party affiliation, and the GOP is taking in the shorts on this one. Only 20% of Americans openly admit to being a Republican these days, which is sad. I'm actually surprised that it's at 20%. I would have thought that it'd be more like 10% or 15% tops.

Anyway, I just thought that I'd point that bleak fact out for you.

EbenCooke:

I think oldmanriver's done an EXCELLENT job, showing us just how informed Fox Newspeak's fan base is. Really!

You can’t say that oldmanriver isn’t motivated……..

was bush a socialist for bailing out the banks and cars.

Yes and get your facts straight- Bush punted the cars decision to Obama.

was bush a socialist for declaring war on dan rather.

No- Dan Rather lied. Beck turns up the rhetoric, but thus far he hasn't out right fabricated anything. Lets face it call Obama a commie sympathizer is far more accurate than what Rather said. The laughable part is that many of Obama's WH staff are on tape and video singing praises of communisim and socialism. Dunn, Van Jones, Acorn corruption, Lloyd, Obama himself, have all admitted or on tape saying they like communism for the last few decades because it is all the rage in liberal intellectual circles. Che t-shirts and all.

was bush a socialist when he expanded medicare and federal aid to education.

Yup

so go protest your socialized government run health care called medicare.

I will. Technically Medicare isn't socialized medicine since we all are forced to pay for it. It is a ponzie scheme.

The 40% number is higher than it was in 2008 and 2006. That tells me that more independents/moderates are looking at obama's policies and rejecting them. It tells me that 2010 will not be kind to the Dems. We shall see.

Wrong Vann Jones is an admitted communist. Anita Dunn admires Mao so what does that tell you? Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change. Mark Lloyd, newly appointed Chief Diversity Officer of the FCC.Lloyd is a disciple of Saul Alinsky and fan of Hugo Chavez, wants to destroy talk radio and says free speech is a distraction. The new FCC diversity "czar" says Venezuela is an example we should follow. There are several other crazies in his czar family but dont have time to go into them.

But do you have time to document your claims?