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Bravo, Cheney!!
by Zhahara
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I agree with Cheney that "President Obama now seems afraid to make a decision and unable to provide his commander on the ground with the troops he needs to complete his mission,"

Someone needed to step up and say that for the public to hear. While Cheney might not have been the best person to say it, those who could have more effectively said it (Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton or even VP Biden) just couldn't have done it considering the backlash they might have experienced. But I am sure all 3 of those people know that what Cheney said is true.

Before he was elected, Obama dithered on a number of things because he learned quickly that when he came out with a quick answer (as he did with Georgia ) it was almost always wrong.

Obama's response, that "What Vice President Cheney calls 'dithering,' President Obama calls his solemn responsibility to the men and women in uniform and to the American public," was weak. Anyone knows that in a war situation, sitting on one's hands (whatever the reason) is a recipe for death and disaster.

Bravo to Cheney for saying what needed to be said.

Cheney should go Cheney himself.
by IdioticStemCell
You cons have Dick Cheney and George Bush The Dumber to blame for why Afghanistan is such a clusterfuck. It's your mess and you know it. Say, Zhahara, wouldn't someone such as yourself consider EIGHT YEARS of failure in Afghanistan as "dithering"? Really. I'm curious as to why you cons are unable to remember the past. Is it a mental blocking thing with you people? Or is it a case of not wanting to take responsibility for your fuckups as is per usual with Republicans? I'd like to know. Haven't enough Americans suffered for you puke's inability?
Re: Cheney should go Cheney himself.
by Zhahara

Bush screwed up in Afghanistan. He had no business leaving Afghanistan and moving on to Iraq. Bush was wrong to invade Iraq.

BUT Obama came in proclaiming he would "change" things and it is wrong to blame Bush for the FACT that Obama is dithering now.

Some things can be and should blamed on Bush.

But if things go to hell in Afghanistan now, after Obama has had ample time to at least begin to fix Bush's screw up, then it is nobody but Obama's fault for it.

I am not at all curious as to why you Democrats are desperately trying to continue to say that things Obama is doing are Bush's fault. It's what you do. Your leader does it. You do it too. The rotten apples don't fall far from the tree, do they?!

Re: Bravo, Cheney!!
by CMD

hey cowardly maggot, why did you run shitless scared from my thread exposing Cheney for the anti american scum he is? because it's what cowards like you do best. since you cant refute my thread, predictably you start a new thread and shove your head up your ass even more.

so cowardly maggot, answer me this scum. if Cheney is so right why then did Bush/Cheney go into afghanistan with a paltry 11K man army when we used 500K just to liberate Kuwait? then answer me this, why did Cheney surrender to OBL the second the special forces unit hunting him got close, and redeployed those special forces to Iraq where they couldn't hunt OBL?

don't run like the chicken shit scum you are. answer the questions coward

Re: Bravo, Cheney!!
by Zhahara

I have never run from you or anyone and I don't recall even posting to you, but I may have done so. Whatever.

But I apparently caused you to go over the edge of any sanity you might have ever had into the dark realm of abject insanity. I would say I'm sorry, but I'm not. Your sanity (or obvious lack of it) is your problem. It's not mine.

I was not part of the Bush administration so I can't answer your questions about it. You'll have to use Google or something if you haven't spit up too much on your keyboard to find your keys to type on.

That being said, I haven't seen your thread/ don't remember your thread/ don't care about your thread. I read the article and commented to it. So if you can focus enough to read my post here and comment to it, I will answer your next post. If not, then please - seek help.

Re: Cheney should go Cheney himself.
by middleview

1. Obama did change things in Afghanistan. Have you checked the troop levels. We now have far more troops than Bush/Cheney ever committed to the fight. Bush/Cheney ignored requests from the commanders on the ground for reinforcements. That makes Cheney's bullshit even worse.

2. The current request for an additional 40,000 troops should be evaluated and if it takes Obama a couple of weeks to think through a major change in policy and tactics, so what? Who is Cheney to open his mouth on the current situation?

The rotten apples are those who are busily trying to avoid being responsible for the current mess. We can clearly and honestly review the policies of Bush and Cheney, now that they are out of office. We cannot know what the outcome of Obama's policies are at present. You and people like Cheney are working on an agenda which has to do with winning an election in 2010. You don't really care about whether or not Obama is doing the right thing. You care about trying to persuade people that it isn't.

Re: Bravo, Cheney!!
by CMD

as usual you shove your head up your ass and run like the chickenshit coward you are.

you wont answer the questions because you know to answer them in honesty is to admit what a piece of shit anti american scum you are.

Bravo?
by middleview

While Cheney was in charge there was a request for reinforcements to help catch Osama Bin Laden and close off the escape route to Pakistan. The administration was afraid of comitting troops and decided to bribe war lords to catpure Bin Laden. That having been such a great strategy, Cheney feels that he is capable of offering advice to the Obama administration. Bush/Cheney committed about 11,000 soldiers to capturing Bin Laden and they failed. Obama has upped the troop levels and has now been asked for 40,000 more. The republicans simply answered "No". Obama is evaluating how to adjust the plans and Cheney thinks he should answer without thinking....

That is pretty sad. That you think Cheney is correct to open his mouth is laughable.

Re: Bravo?
by Zhahara
I stand by my answer. Cheney is correct that Obama is "dithering" and "dithering" is not a wise thing to do right now.
Re: Cheney should go Cheney himself.
by Zhahara
I have no agenda for 2010 and I don't care what Cheney thinks about 2010.
Re: Bravo, Cheney!!
by Zhahara

"As usual"? I haven't posted here for very long at all, and yet you think you can say "as usual" as if I've been here forever?

You are presenting yourself as a stereotypical Democrat who throws out bold-faced lies and thinks it is just fine to do so.

Thanks for verifying my bad impression of Democrats.

Re: Bravo, Cheney!!
by CMD

run coward run

Re: Bravo, Cheney!!
by CMD

"Thanks for verifying my bad impression of Democrats"

and how did I do that oh delusional moron? I've never voted for a democrat in my life. but reality based facts never were your strong points were they cowardly maggot

dithering? come now Zhahara
by religiouslib

no we now have adults in charge who don't make cowboy decisions that cost american blood and treasure without a thorough review.

is afghnistan going to implode in the couple weeks obama takes to decide the best course of action.

look i am a small business owner and when i make a decision to expand or invest in more overhead, i take a couple months to run it by my lawyer and accountant and friends and family.

that is how rational responsible decisions are made and the reason bush/cheney left this country in dire straits. they were boys playing cowboy and indians.

You have military expertise?
by middleview

Do you know something about Afghanistan, military manpower or logistics? How much training do you have in tactics and strategy?

We have had a former Texas Air national guard pilot and a former Navy pilot in charge of making the decisions. Then, of course, we have Cheney, who never served in the military. They got over 4,000 soldiers killed and totally failed in the mission to capture or kill Bin Laden. They ignored the request for a small contigent of troops to close the escape route that Bin Laden took.

You seem to think that Cheney is a credible source of criticism, but you don't tell us where your background gives you the expertise to claim an ability to judge.

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