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This is Excellent NEWS!!
by degsme
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This is EXCELLENT NEWS!!

Sure its crap that the Army (and probably Marines) are spinning their numbers, but it suggests that the bloodlust that was so fevered in the population as recently as 2006/2007 has started to wane. That despite a deep recession, our youth is thinking seriously about the mercenary aspects of military recruiment.

No longer is it sufficient to promise a fast car or a college education or other personal benefits in return for signing up to destroy the lives of brown people

Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by Ohka
I don't think blood lust (or lack there of) has anything to do with this. I think it is more about the mission having no clear objective, and that the will to win from those on the high up seems not to be there. I wouldn't want to play for a team that doesn't seem to want or even try to win, particularly if you might not survive. When the rules of engagement favor the enemy it seems crazy to want to sign up (surprised there are still 70k of them this year).
Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by odemoma

First off your an idiot. To assume that our youth signs up for the military to destroy the lives of brown people shows what a brain dead idiot you are. I would assume that most people that join the military do so to improve themselves as leaders and contributors to society and to get money for college and or their families. That is why I enlisted years ago and why many more like myself enlist today. Never did it cross my mind that I would destroy the lives of brown, white, yellow, purple or any other color people.

Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by Tarkol
degsme:

This is EXCELLENT NEWS!!

Sure its crap that the Army (and probably Marines) are spinning their numbers, but it suggests that the bloodlust that was so fevered in the population as recently as 2006/2007 has started to wane. That despite a deep recession, our youth is thinking seriously about the mercenary aspects of military recruiment.

No longer is it sufficient to promise a fast car or a college education or other personal benefits in return for signing up to destroy the lives of brown people

In 20+ years of military serice I never met anyone who signed up for bloodlust.

Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by jj64
**** In 20+ years of military serice I never met anyone who signed up for bloodlust. *** Obviously you weren't a marine.
Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by MisterPerson

odemoma:

First off your an idiot. To assume that our youth signs up for the military to destroy the lives of brown people shows what a brain dead idiot you are. I would assume that most people that join the military do so to improve themselves as leaders and contributors to society and to get money for college and or their families. That is why I enlisted years ago and why many more like myself enlist today. Never did it cross my mind that I would destroy the lives of brown, white, yellow, purple or any other color people.

You must be new around here. Yes, this guy is a well-known brain-dead idiot.


Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by Tarkol

jj64:
**** In 20+ years of military serice I never met anyone who signed up for bloodlust. *** Obviously you weren't a marine.

Correct. But even the Marines I met had the bloodlust put in them after joining. lol :)

Patriotism would be the number one reason, even among Marines. ;)

Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by Hogie

Yes folks, Degsme is a typical far lefty circa 2009. This is the type of rhetoric the far left pukes forth on a daily basis. The America hating, military hating far left.

Degsme, you are a pathetic human being.

Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by icemilkcoffee
Tarkol:

...Patriotism would be the number one reason, even among Marines. ;)

For most americans, patriotism is the same thing as blowing up brown people.

From my time in the army, I can tell you that patriotism is a distant second. The main reason anybody enlisted was because they were non college bound low achievers who had nothing better going for them.

Of course that was the peace time pre-9/11 army. It seems like the post 9/11 army drew in a lot more assholes, nimrods and shitkickers.

So to love America you must kow tow
by degsme

Hogie:

Yes folks, Degsme is a typical far lefty circa 2009. This is the type of rhetoric the far left pukes forth on a daily basis. The America hating, military hating far left.

Degsme, you are a pathetic human being.

So to love america means I must ove the Federal Military?....James Madison in Federalist 46 would beg to disagree.

Anyone who cannot distinguish between America as a nation or set of ideals and the modern military is a sad excuse for a reasoning human being.

BTw, you may not like it, but I'm actually a fairly moderat lefty

Plenty signed up
by degsme
Plenty signed up psot 9/11 to "kick some mideast ass". There's a reason Toby Keith has been so popular with the USA tour.
Lets look at your own words.
by degsme

Lets look at your own words:

I would assume that most people that join the military do so to improve themselves...and to get money

Now lets look at the definition of mercenary:

  • soldier fighting for money
  • Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain

Seems to me that fits your reason and the reasons you give as MOST enlistees reasons.

Never did it cross my mind that I would destroy the lives of brown, white, yellow, purple or any other color people

What did you think you were agreeing to do in return for your personal gain? Participate in love ins? The military's primary (and arguable sole) mission is to destroy and kill those deemed to be "the enemy". Now lets see who the USA has considered "the Enemy" since WWII.

Which of the following nations is considered to be majority "white"?

  • North Korea 1950-1953
  • Vietnam 1959-1975
  • Cuba 1961
  • Nicaragua 1981-1990
  • Honduras 1981-1990
  • El Salvador 1981-1992
  • Libya 1981
  • Lebanon 1983
  • Iraq - 1990 (desert storm)
  • Balkans - 1992 -
  • Somalia 1993
  • Afgahnistan - Sudan -1998
  • Afghanistan - 2001
  • Iraq - 2001

So explain to me how it is that we haven't been going after brown people?

So refute the facts
by degsme
Hmm, if I'm so brain dead - how come you have yet to actually refute any factual claims I've made?
Re: So refute the facts
by MIDAMER
No problem, first present a fact.
Re: This is Excellent NEWS!!
by koppenberg

I cannot imagine bloodlust in my co-workers and family members who are or have been in the U.S. military.

I could easily imagine bloodlust in the young man I sat next to on a plane a few months ago. He was a very talkative active duty soldier on leave from Afghanistan who told me of his enjoyment of kicking in the doors of the homes of Afghans, whom he also referred to as "hajis" (a term of respect when used respectfully, but also a slur when not used respectfully). He eagerly anticipated the end of his enlistment, after which he would apply for a job at Blackwater/Xe.


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