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"Goos e'flesh...
by Bratsche

Is this 'She' Leda's template, sown from strands and strews that antedate even the minimal requirements for the elements to 'eveolve' toward the accidental flowering weeds of crotch and consciousness?

Or could 'she' function as a molestress of an under-aged god, a 'weeping boy' who just found himself coughed-up in a void rapidly filling with the kriegsgrind between darkness and light, with all that's best of meeting in her aspect and O' Byronic otherwise(s) eye-es?

Or is this 'she' just another strand hanging among the squirt-fart of pop-culture ringing its own bell in in order to call attention to hesheit's self inside the ringa-ding-ding of the toleration by any means necessary agenda? Freud. Wes Craven. Larry Flint. Which would yield the most evidence about the hanging strand intepretation? Is this 'she' a moment d' touchcrotchable on the part of Liardet? Should Michael Jackson be involked, contra-danced by, say, Ellen Degeneris?

Even if considered in terms of an absurdist/surrealist attempt at forcing the poem's language and situation into place, I, at least, see more of mental pathology than a poem using the mechanism of thwarted expectation and linguistic usurpation to make an attemped anti-art document using the verges of gender-swapping as its "Jake" card.

Still, I applaude Liardet's effort. Just not all that sure that I would go out of my way to read any more of his work.

Apologies to all for being essentially negative about this poem. Would also be adverse to any poem that attempted to establish even an inert moral sense about liars, thieves, gossips, rapists, murderers, and such like. I have no room for such in my mind. Judgemental? Absolutely. But that's between God and me.

Carpe Verve all

Re: "Goos e'flesh...
by Paul_Breslin SlateIcon

I haven't made up my mind about this poem yet.

But imagine if Shakespeare had found no room in his mind for murderers (no Macbeth, no Richard III) or if Chaucer had found no room for gossips (you'd have to abridge the Canterbury Tales).

It is possible to be morally clear in condemning horrifying acts and yet be interested in, even compassionate toward, those who do commit them. (I commend Edwidge Danticat's The Dew Breaker, about an ex-torturer for the Duvalier regime and his victims, as an example of such an attitude.)

Re: "Goos e'flesh...
by schizoidman_21

Paul - I have a question for you completely off subject. Are you a sailor/boater? I saw the name Paul Breslin in one of the boating forums I monitor at work (West System epoxy) and wondered if it was the same Paul Breslin from the Slate poetry forum.

I too haven't made up my mind what I think about the poem.

Re: "Goos e'flesh...
by Paul_Breslin SlateIcon

Schizoidman--

I love boats and the water, and when I was young I used to row tirelessly. Have done a little sailing but only informally, as crew, never really learned the fine points--and not recently. Now I just swim or walk along the beach.

So this must be one of my many internet doppelgängers, along with the retired seminarian who wrote Hallmark-card-style poetry, the Irish soccer coach, the jazz bass & guitar player based in France, the neurologist who works on the senses of taste and smell, and the victim of molestation by a corrupt priest.

Maybe I'll start using my middle initial . . .


This is too technical for me
by Bottomfish
I think I've figured out what's going on in "Goose Flesh". That's enough for me.
Re: This is too technical for me
by MaryAnn

I think I've figured out what's going on in "Goose Flesh".

Bratsche, I think the boy's mother is just helping him get dressed. The whole sexual scenario is just in his head -- something that gives him gooseflesh in its attractiveness / revulsion. See rob's comment under bottomfish's thread.

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