Governments don’t reduce efficiency (and the resulting price reduction), free markets do. In fact, ignoramuses, Government price controls and intervention create inefficiencies and shortages (worse results)…Research proves this.

More private capitalism and less government oppression is the solution.

We reject all compromise.

Kooks – How do you think the USA became richer (more jobs, more wealth and more bathing) than France? What does the more socialized French market cost the French people? Jobs; Wealth? Security? Perfume? Think. Think; and then answer.

I want to see if a left-winger is capable of holding a single rational thought. Don’t quote 6th grade civics; think on your own!

Socialism is an economic system. The Nazis’ economic system was a mix between socialism (Government control) and fascism (Corporate/Government hybrid). North Korea uses a Communist economic system (100% Government control or 100% socialism).

Nazis had socialized healthcare (in fact Germany was the world’s first to control that segment of their economy and people); Frree people have free market solutions. In fact, we wish to repeal Medicare and Social Security and start over, with free market principles.

Britain has a huge welfare state, as does much of Europe and Canada. A “mixed economy” is mixture of capitalism and socialism. We argue that the European welfare sate is inferior to a freer economy, and that the USA already has too much socialism.

WE – the free thinking, US loving American people - oppose Obama’s progressive socialist/fascist, Big Government, Nanny Welfare State, Multicultural utopia. Obama’s vision of the future is so horrific because he enslaves us, “Give me liberty, or give me death.” We choose liberty. Obma forces Government slavery/death upon us.

Obama will fail. It is a mathematical and logical impossibility that raising taxes on Corporations, small businesses (LLCs that make more than $250K), the wealthy, energy and capital gains will not increase unemployment rates and decrease economic growth. And he wants to add new healthcare costs to his taxing and spending and spending and spending orgy! Therefore, Obama’s economic agenda is for other reasons, probably is to create racial/sexual/ethnic equality (Racial Marxism). Individual liberty, adherence to contracts, minimal Government collusion, and individual responsibility will be thrown out for those who need, from each according to his ability.

Let’s say, right now, our economy is 38% socialized; and Obama wants to take us to 50%. Compromise would make us 44% socialized. So compromise is impossible because the economy is going in the exact wrong direction.

Rationally we know that once people are given entitlements, it is a near political impossibility for Government to retract them later. Therefore, Obama’s Government expansion will be permanent.

It is a forgone conclusion that Obama’s proposals will make the US economy resemble Europe, which as a whole, spends about 50% of GDP on Government programs, thereby creating flat inflexible sluggish European economy in perpetuity. America’s competitive advantage was its freer market, smaller Government, with less interference with the free market. Socialism, at best, dulls the masses into passive mediocrity. As we know, the US’s economic, military, political and cultural strength and global influence was entirely based on the strength of its capitalist economy. Obamanomics, likewise, guarantees economic mediocrity from now on. More than promoting mediocrity of entrenched egalitarian, racial Marxism, Obama is actively dismantling the economy, destroying American lives, harming all of humanity. .

Additionally, it was private capital that gave America the profit incentive for creating new technologies, medical and pharmaceutical advances. This advantage WAS a proven measurable fact as measured by numbers of patens, copyrights, research papers produced and cited, and awards major scientific prizes. Before Obama, the US created more new technology than the combined output of the next eight best nations combined. Without the market advantage humanity a whole will be harmed.

Since you (and your supposed friends) seem to be all-knowing, I was wondering where you came down on that issue.

By the way, what is the opposite of "racial marxism"? Discrimination, separation, and unequal opportunity for various races and ethnicities?

You are a lemming drone.

2wit

mornin' republican brown shirt that can not think straight.

what is racial marxism. marxist socialist and communists where never racist. island muffin does not understand that words have meaning and that to missuse them makes the writing inchoherent.

France beats the pants off the American healthcare system. And by the way, France's system is one of government payments to PRIVATE insurance companies.

The system we have now has collapsed, and the metrics demonstrate this. Higher per capita cost than any other country and a poor benefits to costs ratio.

Muffy, you had your chance for 3 decades to bring about a free market utopia. The result was a healthcare crisis and a bankrupt financial system.

Your philosophy and programs failed.

Bullshit Muffy. If free markets are so great at lowering costs, then please tell me why my insurance premiums have gone up almost 20% a year over the the last few years and my wages have been frozen?

You free marketers don't care about insuring everyone at prices they can afford, all you care about is making the largest profit at the lowest payout of claims.

... he is an ideologue who believes the "research" that supports his position and discounts the "research" that is contrary to his position.

In his minds, his beliefs are irrefutable and any "facts" presented that appear to contradict his beliefs spring from irrationality.

He won't change.

FormerlyKnownAsIRP:

... he is an ideologue who believes the "research" that supports his position and discounts the "research" that is contrary to his position.

In his minds, his beliefs are irrefutable and any "facts" presented that appear to contradict his beliefs spring from irrationality.

He won't change.

you just described the fray.

Muffy won't change and apparently neither will his/her posts demanding NO COMPROMISE: STOP OBAMACARE!

You mean like during the last eight years under the twin dunces, Dumbya and Dick-head?

Yeah! that really worked out well, didn't it?

Ignorant fool!

1.) Evolution is a scientific fact. In fact, I would add more Darwinism to economics. Capitalism (AKA: Creative Destruction) requires failure, so better/fitter businesses can survive.

2.) The opposite of racial Marxism is absolute equality under the law: We advocate for everyone having the exact same individual rights without regard to any factor whatsoever.We oppose collective rights such as Affirmative Action and EEO laws, because such laws are discriminatory to the “unprotected/advantaged,” where the “disadvantaged/protected” groups are given discriminatory preferences, because of alleged victimization status. We believe that man should be punished for his own sins and not for his great grandfathers’ transgressions. Further, those who support “equality of outcome” are, in fact, “racial Marxists” and are factually part of the most murderous ideology in all of human history! As non-racists, we support “diversity of outcome,” because we support absolute individual liberty for all, where people are free to succeed and fail. Finally, it is irrational to create an “hierarchy of victimization” where groups are ranked according to “oppressor/victimization” status, because all groups have both oppressors and victims in their histories. We argue that all laws should be enforced equally; no ethnic group is above the law; and no one should have special victim status protectionsIndividual rights are civil rights, because there is no individual smaller than the individual.We reject Liberal multicultural indoctrination dogma as anti-Western racism. We respect and emulate the successful, and consider capitalism, business and free trade to be moral endeavors. We demand the right to succeed or fail, on our won, without Government interference. We support the consensus of science, whether it is economic (free markets are superior), Darwinian (evolution is a fact) or environmental; however we oppose pseudo scientists who pimp anti-human, environmental economic egalitarian utopias.We support sound monetary policies without government intrusion. We reject the intrusion of Obama’s big Government, free spending, fiscally undisciplined progressive redistribution. We demand a firewall between Government and business, like the separation of church and state.

3.) Fascism is based on racism: However, racial Marxists, like Obama, use race and gender as proxies for the victimization class to promote economic envy, class warfare and racial hatred in order to facilitate their progressive redistribution schemes. Demonizing the wealthy is the same leftwing class warfare tactic that Obama use today. Just like Obama demonizes the “greedy CEO,” liberals are demonizing greedy bourgeoisie, greedy businessmen, greedy Mensheviks, greedy Anglos and greedy Jews still today. For example,

· Obama rips greed of Wall Street,Washington‎

· Greed Incorporated: Obama slams "irresponsible" and "shameful ...

· Obama blames 'ethic of greed' for economy - Jeanne Cummings ...

· New Quote from Barack Obama, “Where White Folks' Greed Runs a ...

· Obama says "I want to be greedy".....? - Yahoo! Answers

· President Obama says Chrysler investors greedy and Will be Dealt ...

· Articles | Obama slams 'greedy' AIG executives - ITV News

· Obama calls Insurance Firm 'Greedy' and 'Reckless' | News You ...

When Government tells businessmen to commit suicide then Government has become too oppressive. The problem is that Government has directed the proletariats’ “Righteous Anger” towards businessmen, and deflected the fact that Government itself has caused these problems. Governments have a history of fanning hatred towards the bourgeois, instead of acknowledging its own failings.

Just like the Obamaist Government today is currently demonizing the greedy Anglo and Jewish businessmen, the National Socialist Party of Germany and the Stalinist Government demonized the greedy Jewish businessmen. Just like the Obamaist Government today, all oppressive/fascist Governments demonize the bourgeoisies. The Government Bolsheviks demonize the Bourgeoisie Mensheviks in order to increase Government size and power, under the guise of an equitable redistribution and promised social justice, while the ignorant, lead by their noses, proletariats scream, “Off with their heads!”

Obama combines Racial Marxism with Class Warfare: The opposite of a fascist would be someone who supports minimal Government, the Constitution, free-markets and our unalienable individual and private property rights.

4.) US is already 40% socialized. Government interference, intrusion, distortion and collusion and corruption is the problem.

you essentially exouse the social darwinism of the nazis.

or don't you read what you write?

your so dead wrong in so many other areas. the principle drivers of new technology over the last fifity five years were the following government financed programs (socialism):

the manhattan project.

the pentagon's financing of computer microchip technology.

nasa's space program.

and federal subsidies of the health care industry.

who do you think your crappin' island muffin?

European spending, taxing, redistribution and Stateism have many costs beyond healthcare: Economic Freedom Indexes: <link> " What does research tell us about the best balance between economic liberty and socialist quasi-slavery? <link> The indices of economic freedom attempt to measure (free market) economic freedom, and empirical studies based on these rankings have found them to be correlated with higher living standards, economic growth, income equality, less corruption and less political violence. For a sample example, see:

The Path To Sustainable Growth, Lessons From 20 Years Growth Differentials In Europe: (<link>)"Big government" is the main cause of Europe's weak performance. The oversized Public-Sector lacks productivity and undoes the entire productivity gains of the Private Sector, eradicating all of its outstanding performance and productiveness. Europe can improve its overall performance by copying the Irish success formulas: Scaling down Public Spending, downsizing bureaucracy, and shifting the tax burden from income on consumption. This book demonstrates why the Lisbon Agenda and decades of Keynesian inflationist demand stimulation have failed. It develops alternative and workable supply-side strategies as well as effective cures for humane growth and a financially sustainable social security.The main conclusion is that two factors of the public policy mix cause weak growth performances: excessive public spending and a demotivating tax structure, on the one hand, and over- consumption with a lack of savings and investment on the other hand. We conclude that the public sector in most European countries is far too large, depriving the private sector of the recourses to realize its full wealth potential.

US Joint Economic Commission: <link> -Government serves many useful functions, including some economic ones. The findings here support the view that the growth of government in newly emerging nations and economies tends to increase output. Presumably this reflects the reduction in transactions' costs and the improved environment for investment associated with a rule of law and enforceable property rights. At the same time, in modern times relative American federal government spending has expanded rapidly, reflecting sharp increases in transfer payments. The evidence suggests that large transfer payments in particular have negative consequences for growth. The results for the federal government are confirmed for state and local governments and several other countries. The findings suggest that a federal budget strategy of constraining spending growth below output growth, with particular attention paid to constraining transfer payments, would have positive effects on economic growth.

Economic Freedom Indexes: <link> "Public spending" or "Government size" or taxation" is different than "economic freedom." The curve shows that governments mostly tax, redistribute and spend themselves into economic destruction - even in nations with high degrees of economic freedom. The curve proves taxation, redistribution, and government size hinders economic growth in most Western nations because most nations tax their populations too much for optimal tax rates. The study tries to find the optimal tax rate which generates the most tax revenues. I would prefer to have less revenues and smaller government over the optimal rate.

The Scandinavian Nanny State: <link> - lists of countries of the world sorted by their gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita,- 2007. The relatively homogeneous European nations that do well on the Transparency and Economic Freedom scales have lower corporate taxes rates than the US (to keep businesses in country) coupled with much higher personal income rates (than the US) to fund their welfare states. Norway is a tiny nation, far more homogenous than the US, which can more efficiently educate its population. The creative destruction of capitalism requires the “flexibility” of a relatively well educated populous, where people can change jobs at will. To be succinct, the Norwegian economic model would not work in a large diverse nation with 300 million people, including 40 people million who not speak English.

Very recommended links:

1. 5% growth is no utopia. Causes of Growth differentials in europe. (Abstract WFA Study)

2. Causes of Growth Differentials in Europe: (Full Report of the WFA Study):

3. The myth of the Scandinavian Model. (The Brussels Journal)

4. Europe's Ailing Social Model: Fairy-Tale & Facts

5. Can we still avoid Inflation ( Friedrich A. Hayek on inflationary policies )

6. The Swedish model: Admire the best, forget the rest (The Economist)

7. Decay and the welfare state, Time to Reevaluate the European Social Model. Has the time come? (FT)

8. Dr Robert A. Mundell's Nobel Prize Lecture: "A Reconsideration of the 20th Century" claiming that Supply Side Economics leads to growth and price stability.

9. THE PATH TO SUSTAINABLE GROWTH - Lessons From 20 Years Growth Differentials In Europe.

More Research on Europe:

1. Is Europe Doomed to Continued Economic Stagnation? <link> Europe suffers from particular weaknesses. 2007 Index of Economic Freedom says, "Europe suffers from the second-worst regional score in labor freedom and is dead last in fiscal free­dom from government.… [S]trong state sectors and rigid labor markets have already prompted significant social turmoil, not least in France."

2. Jean-Claude Trichet, "The Need for Structural Reforms in Europe," lecture to the Lisbon Council, June 4, 2007, at www.ecb.eu/press/key/date/2007­­­­/html/sp070604.en.html#fnid­2­­ (June 7, 2007).

3. OpenEurope, "ICM Survey of Chief Executives for Open Europe," at www.openeurope.org.uk/research­­­­/businesspres.pdf­

4. "The Road to Hell Was Paved with Good Intentions," The European Journal, March/April 2006, pp. 19–21, at <link>

5. Sean Dorgan, "How Ireland Became the Celtic Tiger," Heritage Foundation Backgrounder No. 1945, June 23, 2006, at <link>.

As for further evidence that the New Deal failed see these articles:

1. FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate
Why the New Deal Failed

2. <link>

3. FDR's programs didn't succeed in pushing unemployment below 20 percent.

4. New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America."

5. Cato's Jim Powell makes the case against the New Deal.

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work.…I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises….I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!" - Henry Morgenthau Jr. (May 9, 1939,) -- pal, lunch companion and loyal secretary of the Treasury to President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

"I have never seen an economist lay out a case that the New Deal succeeded." – (<link>) Library of Economics

We accept some socialism for research, education, infrastructure, policing and military etc. We oppose Government for nearly everything else. We support minimal efficient Government, and oppose the Welfare State.