would not have voted for Obama were he white.

Please know, its not like I believe this is some grand revelation - its not a thought I've deluded myself into believing deserves bbs top billing.

I'm just tired of merely thinking it.

Now I can move on.

Did you take a survey?

But since you asked...no, I have not.

I really thought better of you than that. If I delete my posts, would you retract yours?

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pretty much sums up his proof for his claims...

Clinton, just for example, got 84% of the black vote in 1996 (link).

Maybe if McCain were black?

Or maybe the question, is Clinton blacker than Obama? Probably yes (so far).

I don't think there's any need for stereotyping, assumptions, or name calling on anyone's part here.

So, if by being honest about a recurring (possible problematic*) thought, and making that known, it makes you think less of me. I would probably think better of someone for admitting their fault*. I don't think that deleting it is going to make you think more of me. Not that I wish you to think less of me, mind you, but deleting my candid toughts doesn't make them go away.

*I don't want to believe it either.

**Then there's the nagging matter of, am I right in any way? is there any possibility of that.

I think it's safe to say that if Hillary had been the nominee last year, she'd be president.

Have you asked, "most black people," about their actual stand on this question, or are you just another wingnut, know-nothing shooting off your mouth about something that doesn't matter anyway?

"If John McCain had a set of hooters like Sarah Palin's, he's have won in a landslide!"

though I think there was a deep Bush-Clinton fatigue ..

I'm dealing with myself, daveto. I'm not saying that I'm right. Far from it. I would like nothing more than to be called on the carpet...cleansed, if you will.

a decent set of man breasts ...

though Bush'd be the one to ask

that you could find other ways of thinking it through, I guess. It's not so much that it's a fault in your initial assumption, but in your way of testing it against reality. Like I said to daveto, most Democrats would have voted for Hillary, and most black voters are Democrats, so your question is really: is Barack Obama somebody that black voters would go for regardless of skin color?

I recall some debate among urban black voters and pundits during the primaries as to whether he was black enough. But I think his platform and personality would have gotten him the nomination, and the majority of the black vote, even if he were white(r), mostly because it's clear from his resume that he would put their concerns on the table equally with every other American's.

There are lots of factors to examine before you jump to a conclusion about any large group of people.

I know what you mean. Where I used to live, most black people wouldn't use crosswalks.