Because the UN is totally useless, we have a crisis. Irarael is our only true ally and they stand alone in the ME hated by their neigbors. Obama has made friends of our enemies and enemies of our friends embloldening all radical Muslims.

Sorry folks but old fashioned Bush kick ass diplomacy is the only way to work with the lunitics who are running these Muslim nations.

If Israel bombs Iran they can atone for their mis deed, but lets hope it does not happen.

You say Israel is our only true ally. Can you name ONE benefit we get by being the ally of Israel? Of course Israel gets a LOT of benefits by being our ally (mostly veto power in the U.N. Security Counsel), as well as over 3 billion in aid and arms.

Israel is running a apartheid state, continues to build settlements in occupied territory, and the lastest U.N. report clearly shows they have commited war crimes. YES, Hamas is run by a bunch of morons that are more interested in the destruction of Israel than they are of becoming an indepedent state but Hamas doesn't represent all the Palistinian people.

So again, name ONE benefit the USA gets from supporting Israel? I say that the USA doesn't support any country in the Middle East unless that country agrees that Israel has a right to exist and condems all attacks on Israel, and until Israel ends apartheid.

With regards to Iran, I don't understand your so call 'logic'; You say that GWB diplomany is the only want to work, well that mean attacking and killing since that is the only diplomany GWB used but then you say you hope Israel doesn't attack Iran. So do you want the USA to attack Iran? If no, then what do you mean by GWB diplomany?

Note that Obama appears to have gotten Russia to support the other nations on the SC and GWB dipolmany didn't do that. Of course Russia could back out and China is still a problem (we should deal we China but stopping all inports to the USA until they agree on North Korea and Iran).

jazzguitarman:

You say Israel is our only true ally. Can you name ONE benefit we get by being the ally of Israel? Of course Israel gets a LOT of benefits by being our ally (mostly veto power in the U.N. Security Counsel), as well as over 3 billion in aid and arms.

Israel is running a apartheid state, continues to build settlements in occupied territory, and the lastest U.N. report clearly shows they have commited war crimes. YES, Hamas is run by a bunch of morons that are more interested in the destruction of Israel than they are of becoming an indepedent state but Hamas doesn't represent all the Palistinian people.

So again, name ONE benefit the USA gets from supporting Israel?

An Ally in our fight against islamic terrorists. A strong experience ally.

I say that the USA doesn't support any country in the Middle East unless that country agrees that Israel has a right to exist and condems all attacks on Israel, and until Israel ends apartheid.

What Apartheid? You mean fencing off a hostile population of demented Terrorists and their unprotesting supporters?

With regards to Iran, I don't understand your so call 'logic'; You say that GWB diplomany is the only want to work, well that mean attacking and killing since that is the only diplomany GWB used but then you say you hope Israel doesn't attack Iran.

Yeah.....I want Israel to kick ass in Iran if we won't!

So do you want the USA to attack Iran? If no, then what do you mean by GWB diplomany?

Note that Obama appears to have gotten Russia to support the other nations on the SC and GWB dipolmany didn't do that.

Russia is still helping Iran with its "nuclear reactor" nothing has changed but lipservice. Obama unilaterally withdrew our Defensive missiles designed to defend from an Iranian attack and Russia has said it will not withdraw its offensive missiles directed at eastern europe.

Of course Russia could back out and China is still a problem (we should deal we China but stopping all inports to the USA until they agree on North Korea and Iran).

China has been helping in Korea already through GWB's Diplomacy as for China and Iran they supply dated missile tech that the Iranians have claimed to build on.

Intelligence. They have one of the best.

Location. If things break out, they are located strategically with sea access.

Military. They do have a trained military with resources ready to deploy.

There is no one else who would support us, not even Iraq.

Like we did in Iraq, we should line up our troops and missiles on the borders (while we still can) and call their bluff. If Russia is as chummy with Obama as you say, there will be no problem...right? (LMAO). You know that Russia is lying and making a fool of Obama.

Reagan knew how to play the force card better than Bush. Bush probably could have avoided an invasion if he used more air power first to send a message. A Period of prolonged bombing was a better option. Force not diplomacy when dealing with lunatics.

As far as you claims against Israel, I do not recall them sending suicide bombers into Muslim neighborhoods to kill the innocent. I do recall many war crimes committed by Muslims against Israel. Once again if Israel uses force to deal with the lunatics, I will not be surprised.

An Ally in our fight against islamic terrorists. A strong experience ally.

Israel only increases the number of islamic terrorist since they practice apartheid, commit war crimes (see latest U.N. report), and expand settlements that the vast majority of NON Arab states have comdemed.

What Apartheid? You mean fencing off a hostile population of demented Terrorists and their unprotesting supporters?

The majority of the Palistianian people are not demented Terrorist, anymore than the majority of Jews in Israel are demented Zionist.

Yeah.....I want Israel to kick ass in Iran if we won't!

At least you are honest here. So you wish to go to war with Iran. Will that include a take over of the their government? Yea, how is that going in Afgan? How many nations do you wish the USA to go to war with?

The only reason to go to war with Iran would be to protect Israel and I see no reason to protect Israel. Again, name ONE benefit the USA gets from protecting Israel. Saying because Israel is a ally is NOT a benefit for the USA but ONLY one for Israel. Thus it is clear the USA gets NO benefits from protecting Israel.

You really fear that Iran will attack the USA will missilies? ha ha ha ha. Man you are paranoid. But the best way to deal this this so called threat is for the USA to do what is in OUR interest and NOT what is in the interest of Israel. Drop support for Israel until they end apartheid.

Israel practices apartheid and the latest U.N. report clearly documents the war crimes that Israel did in Gaze as well as prior war crimes committed when they invaded Lebanon a few years back.

Of course there are Muslims groups that have attacked Israel and also commited war crimes. This is why I believe the USA should take NO side and only support Muslim \ Arab nations that support the right of Israel to exist and not be attacked. But the USA should also not support Israel until it ends apartheid and doesn't commit war crimes.

So you don't want Israel to attack Iran but you want the USA to line up our troops on the border???? That is just what Iran wants. Look at the current uprising in Iran. If the USA was to line up troops the current assholes leaders in Iran would get what they want; Support from their people!!! Yea, great plan buddy! Iran would call our bluff (i.e. say go ahead attack us).

So you want the USA to attack yet another country in the region? Where to we get the trillion for that war? But thanks for answering my questions. I guess in your world view war is always the answer to every problem.

jazzguitarman:

An Ally in our fight against islamic terrorists. A strong experience ally.

Israel only increases the number of islamic terrorist since they practice apartheid, commit war crimes (see latest U.N. report), and expand settlements that the vast majority of NON Arab states have comdemed.

What Apartheid? You mean fencing off a hostile population of demented Terrorists and their unprotesting supporters?

The majority of the Palistianian people are not demented Terrorist, anymore than the majority of Jews in Israel are demented Zionist.

They arent? Why do they celebrate suicide bombers? Why do they have children's shows on TV that teach hatred for Israel?

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Yeah.....I want Israel to kick ass in Iran if we won't!

At least you are honest here. So you wish to go to war with Iran. Will that include a take over of the their government?

You might have a point with democracy in Islamic nations so this time why don't we just use scorched earth and leave their people to fend for themselves? I think it is noble what we are doing in Iraq and Afganistan don't you? It is better than what the Romans did to Carthage (although the Romans permantly solved their Carthage problem)

Yea, how is that going in Afgan? How many nations do you wish the USA to go to war with?

Lets limit it to nations that export terrorism to America and our ally Israel shall we?

The only reason to go to war with Iran would be to protect Israel and I see no reason to protect Israel.

Going to war with Iran Protects the world!

Again, name ONE benefit the USA gets from protecting Israel. Saying because Israel is a ally is NOT a benefit for the USA but ONLY one for Israel.

Nope Isreal is a force multiplier and already in the region our terrorism problems come from. They are experienced in fighting terroriests and have been quite successful as a military force that can defeat enemies far larger than they are. We can trust them to fight against our common enemies.

Thus it is clear the USA gets NO benefits from protecting Israel.

Our enemies in the region are the SAME as Israels

You really fear that Iran will attack the USA will missilies?

No they will export terrorism with suitcase nukes through our unprotected southern border. Their missile may be capable of reaching eastern Europe but no the US.

ha ha ha ha. Man you are paranoid. But the best way to deal this this so called threat is for the USA to do what is in OUR interest and NOT what is in the interest of Israel. Drop support for Israel until they end apartheid.

What Apartheid? like I said before there are Islamics and Palestinians in the Knesset the few that want to play nice help run Israel.

I believe we have Islamic enemies BECAUSE of our support for Israel, and the fact that Israel practices apartheid. Of course I'm NOT talking about the FEW Palestianians that are citizens of Israel but those living in the camps that have NO rights and are living under apartheid! Yea, those millions of people!

Anyhow, you have been clear with your point of view. Attack and invade all nations that might be a threat and take them over since the USA must protect the world ( i.e. Going to war with Iran Protects the world!).

I'm sticking with my POV; The USA should do what is in OUR interest and NOT what people like you (neocons) feels is in the best interest of the WORLD. Note that most of the WORLD does NOT agree you have their best interest at heart. I know you have NO respect for the U.N., right?? When a vote by the U.N. would NOT support an attack by the USA on Iran.

Thus why would I believe you really care about protecting the WORLD when you have NO respect for the people and leaders in the rest of the WORLD.

jazzguitarman:

Israel practices apartheid and the latest U.N. report clearly documents the war crimes that Israel did in Gaze as well as prior war crimes committed when they invaded Lebanon a few years back.

Nyetenyahu addressed those claims in his speech quite well Did you bother to listen to it?

Of course there are Muslims groups that have attacked Israel and also commited war crimes. This is why I believe the USA should take NO side and only support Muslim \ Arab nations that support the right of Israel to exist and not be attacked. But the USA should also not support Israel until it ends apartheid and doesn't commit war crimes.

Objectively Israel has not committed war crimes at all. Listen to the speech.

So you don't want Israel to attack Iran but you want the USA to line up our troops on the border???? That is just what Iran wants. Look at the current uprising in Iran. If the USA was to line up troops the current assholes leaders in Iran would get what they want; Support from their people!!! Yea, great plan buddy! Iran would call our bluff (i.e. say go ahead attack us).

He is right Iran will react positively to a show of force (probably not with Obama since he has shown no resolve but for sure when GWB was Pres).

So you want the USA to attack yet another country in the region? Where to we get the trillion for that war?

Where are we getting the 14.9 trillion the Democrats have committed the US to since GWB has left office?

But thanks for answering my questions. I guess in your world view war is always the answer to every problem.

There are few problems that cannot be solved with the proper application of force and resolve.

jazzguitarman:

I believe we have Islamic enemies BECAUSE of our support for Israel, and the fact that Israel practices apartheid. Of course I'm NOT talking about the FEW Palestianians that are citizens of Israel but those living in the camps that have NO rights and are living under apartheid! Yea, those millions of people!

Anyhow, you have been clear with your point of view. Attack and invade all nations that might be a threat and take them over since the USA must protect the world ( i.e. Going to war with Iran Protects the world!).

I'm sticking with my POV; The USA should do what is in OUR interest and NOT what people like you (neocons) feels is in the best interest of the WORLD. Note that most of the WORLD does NOT agree you have their best interest at heart. I know you have NO respect for the U.N., right?? When a vote by the U.N. would NOT support an attack by the USA on Iran.

Thus why would I believe you really care about protecting the WORLD when you have NO respect for the people and leaders in the rest of the WORLD.

You mean a safe free world is not in the best interest of the US? I thought that a safe free world benefits the US by leaps and bounds!

Quite right sweet heart,lets get the blowing up of this planet over and done with, the suspense is just too too awful isn't it ?

Or ....perhaps a little of what seems to have been forgot in all this gung ho-ing and my ( prick ) bomb's bigger than your (prick ) bomb idiocy, a little bit of give and take, a little bit of chatting over a lovely meal, a little bit of civilized intelligent diplomacy ? Nah ... that would never do would it ?

Were we given brains in order to find a way to blow up this paradise of ours ? Of course we were :)

Of course a safe world benefits everyone and thus by default the USA, but that doesn't mean the USA has to be the one starting wars, removing elected governments, and killing people in order to make the world safe. Instead we need to listen to what the other countries in the world are telling us.

Again, you say you have the best interest of the world at heart but when the other countries of the world don't agree with you, well, then you don't give a damm about what they have to say. If you really feel we should respect the interest of the world than you should be a supporter of the U.N. I see you didn't even address my U.N. questions. No need to since I know where you stand there. Thus I don't believe you care about the world. That is just a smoke screen.

The USA under Obama diplomacy is heading toward 3rd rate. We still our the only superpower and IF YOU CANNOT LEVERAGE THIS NOW what will you do when we are 3rd rate?

Every superpower in history conquered and pillaged and it was expected. WE DID NOT.

Tell those lunatics at the UN to go back in history and look at the Persians, Greeks, Romans, French, Spanish, Brits, Russians and tell us who never took a f---kin foot of land that we are evil.

Obama is a historical moron and his apologies for our support for freedom and agreeing with those who call us evil is HUMILIATING

Is there something wrong with Ballot Box?

You are becoming hysterical ! I should go and have a nice cuppa or a beer or something or other, if I were you, before you explode. s-p-l-a-t ! on this fine Jewish holiday :)