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Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by timezoned
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Yeah yeah: Michael Moore is too extreme and distorts "facts", Matt Taibbi is too wild and crazy and is too funny to be a real journalist, the Villagers love this line of attack.

Tell me: Has anything Michael Moore presented been actually shown to be false? Go back and watch Farenheit 9/11. People were saying the same thing about it when it came out, that "Well, he has some points, but he stretches the truth and is too extreme" and all the rest of it. Does it seem so now, regarding that film? Does anything he presented in it seem extreme, or does it all now just get taken as fact? Bush was a tragedy, the Iraq invasion was a fraud, and we all agree, or at least all except the less than 20% extreme right wing fringe die-hards.


We all are Michael Moore eventually, you just love to trash him in the meantime before you realize you agree.

Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by quidfecisti

Has anything Michael Moore presented been actually shown to be false?

You cannot possibly be serious.

Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by Loki's Curse

OK, just list a couple of the easy ones.

Long live the Empire!

Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by quidfecisti

If you had taken any time to look for yourself, you would have found dozens of articles that point out Moore's deceptions by the numbers -- including at least one on this very website! So you either know the truth and are lying, or are incredibly lazy and talking out of your ass. In case it's the latter, here are some links that scratch the surface:

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Now, shut up.

Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by Beaujoe
Michael Moore has been proven wrong several times, just like evolution, global warming and atheism.
Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by dantesfurlough

Hey, Beaujoe, if your response is not a joke, then please tell me how you can prove that atheism is wrong.

I'm sure you can't without sounding like one of those nimrods who believe the earth is 6,000 yrs. old.

Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by Beaujoe
No it was a joke, every time that I've seen Michael Moore "proven wrong" has been a case of Moore haters complaining that he misrepresents the issues because they have a set of highly selective facts or statistics which seemingly contradict the broader picture that he paints, and furthermore when Michael Moore ignores these "facts" for the more salient ones he is "cherry picking."
Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by quidfecisti
So I guess you haven't looked at any of the links in this thread, then?
You couldn't come up with
by Loki's Curse

any yourself?

Long live the Empire!

Re: You couldn't come up with
by quidfecisti
I could believe that you're too lazy to do a google search, but too lazy to click a link? You must be trolling.
Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by Uncle Squinky

quidfecisti:

If you had taken any time to look for yourself, you would have found dozens of articles that point out Moore's deceptions by the numbers -- including at least one on this very website! So you either know the truth and are lying, or are incredibly lazy and talking out of your ass. In case it's the latter, here are some links that scratch the surface:

Now, shut up.

I checked out one of your stinky links and it was for the most part very lame. Out of about a dozen points, perhaps one had some merit. If you are making your argument with such tendentious, vapid citations, I suggest you shut up.

Furthermore, since you would seem to be fascism-loving (Republican perhaps?) right winger, given your view of Moore, I don't see how you can fault him on facts, compared to all the mendacity and loony lunacy being put forth by the right wing in the US. Examples of which are FOX news, over and over and over again. But add to that Oily Titz and the birthers, Rush Windbag and Lou Dobbs and just about anything they say.


Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by quidfecisti

I don't see how you can fault him on facts, compared to all the mendacity and loony lunacy being put forth by the right wing in the US.

That's a really good point. I forgot that politics is a football game. If one team does something wrong, you can too, because the penalties just offset.

Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by Kimmitt
No, you just don't get to benefit from the right-wing lie machine, then pretend to have any interest in whether or not someone is telling the truth. Of course the websites purporting to debunk Moore are full of lies. Moore makes movies about clowns who lie. Then little clownlickers, imitating their idols, lie about Moore. And then, people in internet message boards, licking the clownlickers, lie about how the clownlickers aren't lying about the lies Moore is pointing out. It's like one of those little nesting Russian dolls, except it's made out of stupid.
Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by quidfecisti
So everyone who disagrees with you is lying? These arguments just keep getting better.
Re: Lazy echo chamber Village thinking
by Aargauer
Actually, I checked out the links you provided to support your point of view and Kimmit has a point. They accuse Moore of framing his issues unfairly, but they don't actually cite a single point where Moore is lying.
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